Curious Creatures

Bands, commitments, and brilliant haircuts Thurston Moore and Romantic Fantasy Driving and dreaming of being a band Or a solo career on the Canyon Grand The Cure climbed out over Niagara Falls. The Banshees below in yellow Sou’westers Happy memories for the Xmas cards Covered in spray when both stopped to Play ‘One could have it all!’ says Budgie, solo in San Tropez Alone but not lonely, beneath a Mediterranean moon Reaching out for a connection and kindred spirits With an ET stare into the cosmos of music Mary trained as a Classical harpist Learning to improvise in Thurston Moore's band Dismissing the voice that says, ‘No that’s wrong!’ Being Vulnerable – is that what they demand? Everything recreated as recorded Mary's Goodbye to Hotel Arkarda If Nothing will ever be the same again How do you know when to end each piece? Lol synthesised on Arrivederci. Improvisations on New Year's Eve Mary is a sensitive sentimental person Full of appreciation of people in their power We thank you Mary for bringing your magic to our album. And then Viola barks – woof! ___ Respect: Marie Antoinette (2 November 1755 – 16 October 1793) ____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brutalism! Expression, impressions and Thrashing About Body and Rhythms - finding the Space Favourite guitarists are all really Bad Everything sounding off-kilter and never in Place Joy as an Act of Resistance! Impact and choosing the Moment Being Quiet to being Profound Convergence from Differing Influences Drums are Preferred All round Ultra Mono! Marc can be Chaotic and Indefinite! On Foundations of Solid Bass and Drum But where is the ONE! When you Need it? Turning Left when it’s Comfortably Numb Crawler! They’re running Around and Grabbing things! Loved living in London but Belfast has Changed The Shine of Electronica, Goths, and Hipsters The Converging Circle of Anonymity Tangk! We’re a Gang and we’re Horrible to each Other We’re Ruthless and unpleasant but we don’t let it linger We pushed ourselves to the limits of Divergence and Endurance Respect and Acknowledgement – to be Polar Opposites 2nd Only to Ozzy Osborne! Luxury when touring - on a Stage too Small for Comfort The Friction and the Tension for Creative Sparks Kneepads and Creaking Joints - Marc would love to Miss the Band To be Busy doing Nothing - But He Never does have the Time! ___ Respect: Gabriel ‘Mabi’ Thobejane (1947 – June 3, 2021) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Uh Oh – Here We Go! Writing a song usually takes So Long Jacknife had a melody and the music was strong Arrow had ideas for words on her Phone She Dived in Fearless and Created The Zone Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Cherry Bomb! Arrow started out as A Drummer And knew the Drummer’s Importance Lol could have sung like Joe Strummer But Arrow’s Passion was Performance Arrow and The Ants! Planning the Stage and the Things that need Care California was lost in a Shoe-gaze Stare Starcrawler first played in a Pizza bar cellar From local group heroes to Rough Trade Stellar! The Lost Art of The Video! Though MTV’s Been Gone and Done Arrow arrived fully dressed to Stun Arrow maintains the Video’s Importance She Combined Two dresses to wear as Ordnance! Hey Down! - Ho Down! Modern Music is Voice and Beat Drums and Voice are so Complete Songs that Sound Happy with a Dark Undertow Drawing People in Then Letting them GO! Touring or Recording! Arrow still gets Nervous, but The Stage is her Domain Live in The Studio just isn’t the Same The Whispering Vocal the Eardrums it Tickles Reality TV when done Eating Pickles? ____ Respect: Muhammad Ali (Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. January 17, 1942 – June 3, 2016) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

25 years after the event he would be free. On his porch in Portland, Oregon Destroying the wood. Looking legit in the jail jumpsuit Banging cans and smashing cars up In the rage room Remodeled his kitchen with a bowling ball A disaster Issac was as excited about singing on our record as were we having him on the record Steve Severin's dance the Mussolini house party Syncopate stuff Budgie born to beat box Our fav line is "it's eleven not noon, checkout is soon" No check in until 4pm? Issac's tour manager can get him in straight away Or as a tour manager you get the Presidential Suite Show in London or California; the Integratron or the London Dungeon Sound bath in the desert Brain takes its marching orders from Gamma and delta and frequencies. The gamma needs to be louder to cure your Brain it's cleaning your brain up! Vinyl flow and Jacknife and Isaac get on well We had. Slogan “ Nothing to be done “ “everything will be done “ Exciting to have two drummers drumming Shel Silverstien Books and poems on boogers and he wrote boy named sue Weird dude Budgie had the mad comics Lol discovered America from Mad and DC comics We went out and ate a Twinkies Robert still has one 40 years later Mostly a mineral? We are planning on carrying on working together with Issac - Budgie in the orgasmatron or maybe next door in the Integratron _____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of us changed - One stayed the same Let’s start at the very beginning The Spirit and Magic of it A Simple process - A Breakdown of Sorts Boom Boom Boom Boom Time after time after time after time Composite born of Scribbles and Noise Three Ideas with Strange Titles Begat Three lyrics and Melodies Lol’s Impersonation of a Small dog My nervous system collapsing like buildings Bobby asked, ‘Have you got any Lyrics?’ We said, ‘Surprise us!’ Dipping in During Lock-Down Using Lyrics as Drummers Directions Love was diseased right from the start Hit me like Adventures too Close to Home Bobby speaking for every man and every woman Internal Collapse and Total Disintegration Changing, Running Away, Lusting for Life. ___ Respect: Andrew James Weatherall (6 April 1963 – 17 February 2020) ___ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Exploding Suburban Myths Feminism, Formica and Friends Watch the curtains twitch for a brand-new switch Another music from a different day-glo kitchen Myriad, misogynistic, moustachioed men GermFree Adolescents! Poly’s lyrics reach out across time Don’t touch me please I can’t take the wants and needs! Poly sings Love songs and laments for the voiceless ones New Yorks a-Go-go! A formative experience for Poly and the boys Two gigs a night made a mind changing noise X-Ray Spex were the first punks to play the USA CBGBs crowd a million times ruder than Erics in their day Exhaustion and Tears in The Whiskey a-Go-go! It wasn’t that Poly had to catch up with the World ‘Twas the World had to catch up with Poly. Big Paul’s drumming was Big and complete Poly often sang acapella to the beat High Energy Rock & Roll! Poly also sang each instrument’s part And produced the Music and created the Art 50’s Do-Wop n’ Blues had an influential hand In Poly’s creative use of the band Poly’s Passions! Punk’s DIY Ethic was a necessary tool Finance was fickle and Poly was no fool Necessity was always the Mother of Invention Poly’s Grandmother Understood! She was never going to be a doctor - but if she’d wanted to she could She was Always going to be a creator - and so often misunderstood ___ Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011) ___ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Day The World Turned Day-Glo Celeste made a Film about her Mum Poly Styrene Six years in the Making ‘Twas A Labour of Love Clearing Permissions like Pulling Hen’s Teeth We Share the Frustration, the Push and the Shove GermFree Adolescents! Poly Adored Señor Salvador Dali His Port Lligat studio a Pilgrimage Place Young Lol’s French Girlfriend paraded her cat A cat on a lead with a smile on it’s face I Am a Cliché! Valuable Time Made a Difference Personal Real and True Honest and Believable Felt Real to Lol Honesty Helped Celeste find Her Way Age! Poly, Lol and Budgie – 1950’s Varieties Hold valuable insight of Era and Times Of Austere 70’s and all Notorieties Goths on The Tube and Tory Crimes Identity! Courting Controversy and Cancel Culture An Early Adopter of Media and Tech Poly’s X-Ray Spex gave the Pop world a Rupture X-Ray Spex caused a Pain in the Neck I Am a Poseur! The DIY Spirit of Punk for Celeste Independent Rebellious Thinking To a Conformist Era nothing more than a Pest Punk Self Expression was Sinking Oh Bondage Up Yours! British Journalism made Personal Attacks Made Her Life a Difficult Role It wasn’t Cool to be Polite to the Hacks Poly was a Sensitive Soul ___ Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who’s That Girl? Concentric Circles and Avoiding Repetition When The World Shutdown The Questioning Began Bethany had a Life Changing Awakening On-Screen-Only Relationships! Ice-Cold Bitch and Her July Jacket Bethany has some Secret Tea to Spill! Be Whatever You Want to Be! What’s Through Your Keyhole? Balancing Real Relationships! Space, Space, Space, and More Space! Professional Relationships – The Little Things become Mountains How Often do You Change your Socks? We Are Family – a Mental Family! Re-Inventing the Wheel! Exciting to Rethink the Live Experience Arpeggios and Jingle Jangle The Big Scream is The Point Bethany Thinks on her Toes! What’s On Your Mind? Talking to The Fearful Voice Letting Go of The Extremes Nothing to be Done and Everything will be Done It’s All so Simple – Just Let Go! And The Sound of Wedding Bells!! ___ Respect: Donald Buchla (April 17, 1937 – September 14, 2016) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How Much do you Do in Your car? Bethany lives in Her car - Bethany Loves LA! Lol loves LA too – LA has always looked after him Budgie thinks LA must love him too LA Keeps Calling him Back! Rent-A-Wreck! Budgie rents his first car in LA! Pick ‘n Mix of Environments Lol wants a Bolt Hole in the Desert Music was In the Stars for Bethany as a Young Punk! Bob The Dude Around Town! Catching up with The Thing! Gathering The Best Coast Buzz Digging Down beneath the Dark Underbelly of LA Among The Ghosts of Creative Legacies Becoming The Band until we Disappear! Bethany and All the External Noise Reclaiming Bethany – Bringing back, ‘Shame on You!’ Scary to Put Yourself Out There! 99% is positive - 1% negative is a killer! The Vulnerable Desires! Bethany lets her old Character Go Bethany Creates a Cocoon to Create Anticipation and Expectation? Bethany is Doing it For Herself! ___ Respect: Jim Morrison (December 8, 1943 – July 3, 1971) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can AI make a Hit Record? Drummers talk about anything but Drumming Two of the Singers on Los Angeles are Drummers All we got to do is Act Naturally Things the Industry didn’t Understand Will new Technology Change Music Appreciation? More Means More! We love and Embrace Computers We love and Embrace Individuality We love and Embrace Cohesive Collaboration Now Cue the Music! Good Food and A Donut! Jacknife describes his Daily Process Everybody’s a Drummer – The International Conversation What’s Going On with Shoes and Feet?! Is my One the same as Your One? Robert Dresses Below the Waist Do we ever look at the Back of our Head? Who do you trust to Dress You? Jacknife Never looks at Himself We must Think in 3D! We Got to Move! Isaac Brock sings at 7mph Jacknife Runs along in Time Lol spins for more than 30 minutes Budgie cycles the whole of Berlin (almost!) All because we Listen to Los Angeles!! ___ Respect: William MacArthur ‘Billy’ Mackenzie (27 March 1957 – 22 January 1997) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums (We’re off to a Good Start!) Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want! The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal! Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist On 17 Seconds they swapped instruments - No set formula Discussion is healthy but Discussion takes time! Vocalists are Tricky! Musicians as Tightrope walkers – Without Safety nets Risks can be Creative but not for Careers! Good bands fight to Discover – Take something small and Enlarge! Robert Smith focussed everyone by saying, ‘this will be the Last Time.’ Fragility / Self-hatred / Being weird Pornography almost killed The Cure but reanimated them. Club Smith or Club Tolhurst, had Simon Gallup singing Kate Bush Doing It Like the First Time! Our New album - Fresh and Exciting! Guest vocalists working Outside comfort Zones Bobby Gillespie and James Murphy at Home - Arrow in Topanga New bands are mostly missing the drummer’s personality (We’re off to a Good End!) ___ Respect: Jane Birkin (December 1946 – July 2023) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jacknife never remembers the big moments. Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out! Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd! Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME! Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru. Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert Murdoch Robert impersonated Lol and Lol did a great Robert Everyone close to Robert, became Robert! Q. Affectation or affection for Siouxsie in the Banshees? A.???? Young Bob reinvented Regal zone on ‘So It Goes’ Bon mots take hold on the road An unusual dynamic - being together all the time Understanding people and personalities Us against the world – All for One and One for All! Parts of the world Lol liked and the Jilted teenage girlfriend As you get older, you better understand your ego Getting over the caricatures - writing the story making peace with life - preventing strange characters taking over Q. The Real Stroke of Genius? – A. Begin Today with a Clean Slate! The Job of the Musician is to Discover – Anon. ___ Respect: Sinéad O’Connor (December 1966 – July 2023) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let me in - I’m in the band! It goes like this: Lol - Newcastle Holiday Inn – Sauna – Towel – Door – Fire Escape – Reception – Room-Key! Wayne - Bristol - Liverpool - Leeds – London – California – Brazil – Love - 20 Years! Lol – California – Home - 30 Years Ago - Home is Where the Ticker Tocks . The Circus was Excitement when we Moved from where we Started In a band it’s simpler to do what we do and Live anywhere Alan Vega a lonely man and a stranger in a strange land Budgie ran a Berlin Red Light and received a Berlin mouthful Lol feels more American than Americans Lean American knowledge – makes Lol a man without a history or memory Quiet riot and Slade’s Unique spelling Lol saw Ringo Starr play in LA. Edgar Winter looks how Lol’s God looks! Budgie and the Glitter Band Beats First Money from music - Go buy a Studio T.Rex - Electric Warrior was THE album for Lol, Wayne and Budgie A copy of Electric Warrior said, ‘We’re definitely friends!’ Lol had a delusion of Mikey Finn Stardom I’m a Howling Wolf said Marc Bolan lots of love says, Wayne x ___ Respect: Mickey Finn (3 June 1947 – 11 January 2003) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Budgie plays his Big Bass Harp The Cult and Subbuteo keep everyone Sharp Introducing a Liverpool theme You’ll Never Walk Alone, now choose your team! Lol delivered Newspapers for 25 Bob Delivering milk was Wayne’s other Job The Beeb Top 40 on Sundays recorded 5 Pounds a week a new album afforded David K Jones had a Brian Connolly haircut Young Budgie’s Skinhead made the Headmaster Tut! Banshees and Cure played soccer together The Cure played the crew but it made Heavy weather! Wayne played for Charity and Drew with the Frankies Nasher the Smasher drew Coronation Street hankies! Wayne and Budgie played in a band It lasted two days and then they were canned Wayne with Pete Burns in Dead or Alive Built like a builder - Pete tolerated no Jive ‘Gimme Dat Harp Boy’ Budgie blows the Whistle Test intro Wayne and Lol speechless, ‘He plays like a Pro!’ Lol first met Wayne in the 80’s euphoria saw the Mission play a blinder at London’s Astoria And on into the sunrise of a new friendship’s Gloria! Whispering Bob Harris and Annie Nightingale hosting Morning already? Imaginary boys toasting Sugarcubes’ Einar and Bob had a Ruckus? The Zillow in Germany was it playful then serious? Wayne once lived in the Columbia Hotel Budgie stayed at One Queensway for a similar spell Wayne’s Solo book tour - music and reading Lol toured Chuck Berry style with local Cure-heads leading Chile, and Peru where the Cure’s pick-up glistens Pornography is one of Wayne’s favourite listens Albie Singer was Wayne’s hotel pseudonym Budgie was Chad Valley and Lol, Mr Lazlo When Wayne asked reception, Hey what room am I in? The room for Mr Pussy must be Wayne’s alter-Ego Turned out Mr Pussy was the room Johnny Lydon was in! ‘Delusions of Grandeur’ Lol spends 4 months at the Beverly Hills 4 Seasons Wayne drives around strange places on tour in New Zealand Onwards to Moscow or was it Rio or Bangkok? Lol used a matchbox to find his hotel Budgie did too but which matchbox is it? It’s Spinal Tap again! ___ Respect: Captain Beefheart - (Don Van Vliet: January 15, 1941 - December 17, 2010) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Like Indian musicians, we tuned together Stroboscopic Tuners, revealed that we never Played a gig in Concert pitch - whatever. New drumheads were stolen Boiled bass strings saved money Pitch Pipes were our first harmonicas Riding White Swans We were Kids of the Revolution Thank the gods for glam and David Bowie The Sweet at the I-Beam and their 3-part harmonies Deep Purple and The Beach Boys combined That a good catchy song makes a band worth it’s char-monies. Took NOFX a decade to find Buddy Holly died the day that Lol was born Lol became Big Bopper a natural showstopper Busby Berkeley twirled, and Budgie sought ‘em! Beatles for Sale and Budgie bought ‘em! The Captain was Awesome in the Village of The Damned Lol and Mikey D said, ‘Should we call on Rat’s Mum?’ NOFX had 10 years of peace until Covid Mike had No music as a kid No smoking behind the bike sheds No Drugs, no Pot, no Meth heads Outsiders for life – it’s a Gas! Mike? Still a punk at his High-School reunion? Retirement? - No way! Mike is living the dream again! Lol’s American Passport - Berlin black shirt and round glasses - Beatles in Hamburg 10,000 hours - 16 chords - Ringo’s Drumstick - Mike Loves 8 times Oasis plagiarism - Sleaford Modism - Burgundy Velvet Underwear!!!!! Lol went to Nashville - gave Johnny Cash a No-no Fishbowl studio tour guides, Flea and Fred a Go-go What a Lovely Fellow Mike is! ___ Respect: Buddy Holly (September 7th, 1936 – February 3rd, 1959) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My 1st is in Punk but Never in Junk My 2nd is in Museum but never in Mausoleum My 3rd is a Shop of Tartan punk Underwear My 4TH is Shock of Electric Blue Head Hair Who am I? Lol has the stuff the Hall of Fame Loves Stan Laurel jokes follow Budgie like Doves Lol sounds Australian? Mike’s a Bostonian! We love San Francisco and the fog on The Bay We love the old iBeam and we love Lol’s son Gray The Cure and The Banshees played there in its Hey day Mike saw The Sweet there but we’d all gone away! Bob and Lol stayed at the Red Victorian Meeting the legends and Pleasant Germanian The Punk scene came from Bowie’s Roots The Ramones and The Runaways and Doc Martins Boots Lol was 15 when he saw Suzi Quatro Then Killing Joke told him to go to America Fat Mike’s parents didn’t listen to Music Mike became a Germ Free Adolescent for Poly Styrene My 1st is in X-Ray Spex and also in Ozzy My 2nd is in Pat Smear who lent them a Cozzy My 3rd is in Alice Bag and also in Darby Crash My 4th is in NoFX and also in Graveyard Smash What am I? Budgie is all about the Drums It’s always all about the drums Adam and the Ants - The Glitter band had amazing drums Adam asked Lol and Lol said, “I’m in the Cure so it’s okay.” Lol wears white Sox! So he didn’t get beat up at the Missing Persons gig. (who wrote this?) ___ Respect: Marianne Joan Elliott-Said (3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011) Poly Styrene ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sad story for our friend in Turkey but we remain positive for a good end. Lol and Budgie hopped with Joy to see the Kodo drummers in concert Budgie met Kodo Principal Leonard Eto via prog rock legend Hoppy Kamiyama Leo and Budgie drummed and Hoppy vibed with Chaos tapes and the Hai! album was born In 1977 The Clash drummer Nicky ‘Topper’ Headon was Budgie’s inspiration! Lol’s mentor Andy McBride taught him the beats of The Clash Kraftwerk introduced us to new sounds and the beating heart of German Industry Stephen Perkins was the ‘Zen Beat Master’ of Jane’s Addiction! And Perry Farrell was Lol’s psychedelic neighbour Lol liked XTC’s Terry Chambers and Stranglers sticksman Jet Black Budgie dug and digs, Robert ‘Gotobed’ Grey and could have been his namesake Robert is older than Budgie by 6 years, 4 Months; to the day – Is it time for a party? And Lol ‘Stopthatnoise’ Tolhurst Agrees - Kindergarden Made Drum Monsters of us All! It doesn’t take much for drummer’s questions, does it? ___ Respect: Ronald Lee Wilson – (June 26 1944 – May 12 1989) The Surfaris - Wipe Out ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Heavy Rotation for The Siouxsie Bus Party Linton Kwesi-Johnson - Forces of Victory Psychedelic Furs - India NIN - Pretty Hate Machine London’s Satellite Towns Swingin’ - Dodgy Policing the Numbskulls Mr Murphy with his baseball bat “Oi, cut it out son or your brown bread.” “Sorry Guv I’ll be leaving then.” Robert’s Red Vinyl Box Simon and Kate Bush’s ‘Hounds of Love’ Club Tolhurst and Club Smith Evelyn ‘Champagne’ king Shits and Giggles with Iron Maiden’s ‘Bring your Daughter to the Slaughter’ Keeping the Crew Filth Happy AC/DC - Back in Black Mötörhead - ‘Ace of Spades’ SATB - ‘Nicotine Stain’ The Language of the Drums. Budgie’s famous vocal percussion - Fireball Gypsy Eyes morphs into Mad Eyed Screamer Lol and Budgie wish upon a ‘Highway Star’ Say Hi, to ‘Young Americans’ ‘Get it On’ with T.Rex’s ‘Jeepster’! ____ Respect: Dale ‘Buffin’ Griffin - (1948 - 2016) ____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Machine Gunners’ Ear No Elvis, Beatles, or The Rolling Stones in 1977 Bad brains, Minor Threat and Fugazi - at 14! Washington DC’s 9:30 Club, The Black Cat and Washington Plaza The Walkmen cometh in 2000 Eric’s Club matinee, it’s a drive-in Saturday, lots of creativity from NYC In A Forest or In Dust, the Walkmen place their trust, in the Siouxsie-Bob sound, merci! Bob and Lol’s brothers played music to be loud, discovering the rebel inside From Liverpool to Boston, no charm in the venues, guys in plaid shirts had to hide! More difficult today, is that fair to say? Walkmen wipe-out in London and Bath Salt Lake City rodeo, everyone’s a weirdo, remember roach motels and laugh! Young Budgie loved Winifred Atwell and the Poor people of Paris The English they love you one time In the biggest bed Lol gets it to rhyme! Reggae Chart Busters Volume 1 2 & 3 A piano too heavy for the Barfly Went through a Hole in The Wall Club Manchester was a bit unfriendly Slim Jim and the Stray Cats, lived in squats Lol’s books into Manhattan His son on tour Back in the van y’all Tough for bands in roach motels No bed and shower? then Lol’s a no show! Budgie loves Kid Congo and The Pink Monkey Birds – True! Harlem Analog in the sweet spot of a terrible idea Forget to mute and blow out someone’s ear. Hearing has deteriorated Machine Gunners fear. John McGeoch’s Melodic feedback The soundman was stone deaf - Lol don’t miss floor monitor days Walkmen are back after a decade no tour The Black flag soundman was the best first for sure! ____ Respect: Ruth Polsky (December 5, 1954 – September 7, 1986) ____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

‘The people I remember…’Mutual respect, the Bloc Party hadKele and collaborators, what’s good and what’s badTogether on tour, but then things changeRussell ‘n Kele retain musical respect Musical Respect is a necessary thing Banshees Guitarists, All the Young JohnsSpizz oil and the Banshees, It’s a Family Affair Kele and James Murphy and their traveling bands Having kids and Touring Keep us Peter Pan style. Chilli Pepper pals, Prodigal Sons ‘In the desert you can remember your name’‘Life’s What You Make It’ The Cure take MTV - Budgie signs autographs ‘Down the Pub. ‘The Great Covid Reset’A Non-Touring fantasy - A new way of life?Touring and sleeping go hand in hand!Kele, wants the father-child relationship Lol had none with his father So, he turned it around for his own sonBudgie’s dad was always present Kele’s dad was proud and healing Budgie’s dad said, “Do whatever makes you happy.” Lol’s mum gave him a love of art and literature Lol’s mum said - “I like the new single by The Clash”Fun times meeting US Campus kids – smelled like team spirit ABC - The Look of Love - Money Makes the World go Round Art for Art’s sake – Money for God’s sakeBritish Art space receding - young artists and crew get no SupportFeeling the Fallout of the covid years Love to Kele’s family and toi-toi for the tour! Life’s always a giggle with Budgie and Lol! ___Respect: John Prine (October 10, 1946 – April 7, 2020)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Concentric Circles of Life and the Nightmare of BrexitKele from London via Edinburgh and Liverpool Budgie in France, London and BerlinLol in the USA for 25 yearsOld UK market towns when the pubs are closed Would anyone want a return to 70’s England? Out of Brussels - Nefarious reasons?Strawberries full of chemicals? Capitalism - Free labour?Big Agri eats labour Children pick berries - Human nature stagnates Automation stealing jobs - packing our bagsArmed response in Beverly Hills Belfast’s most bombed hotel - we’re all in the BarHands up! Berlin still an island with lots of space Kele, Lol and Budgie went to Catholic school Altar boys all, singing magi and LatinTeenagers rebelling against Catholic guilt 40 years later we have hopefully matured Not normal to sublimate the ego in your 20’sThat’s what it takes for a band to work A Catch 22 – Few bands remain as first formed If only The Cure had taken a break from the 4th album …A recipe for disaster - everyone loves a rock star, staring into the abyss. ___Respect: Joseph Heller (May 1st 1923 – December 12 1999)___CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Invisible Darlings - Fast piano Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde We needed friends - Americans are friendly! Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! Four sevens Clash! - We’re all numerologists Playing each other’s instruments - in search of a tune Hawkwind’s Silver Machine and 7 by 7 Lol & Budgie loved “In Search of Space” Dik-Mik & Lemmy - hippies and punks Damn Skippy – A Darker psychedeliaBeing open to change - Animal Collective’s philosophy Grow and move on - Nothing lasts David curious about creative Psychedelics - was Pornography Psychedelic? Challenging times - But Lol’s favourite Cure albumBudgie in a Camden Dreamhouse - Dinner in a Greek restaurant The Cure as a psychedelic punk band. Trout Mask Replica - Strange Days from The DoorsRobert sings backwards at 4 am Music’s a trip! ___Respect: Lemmy Kilmister (24 December 1945 – 28 December 2015)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live OMD and Echo and The BunnymenBudgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbalLol and Budgie and the Punk revolutionLoose electronics, unique sounds, and improvisationAvey & Animal Collective bend the Yamaha DX27 like Brian Eno! What’s the patch Today Kids? Animal Collective and Broken Flangers -The future of Music Axis Bold as Love Orgasmic tape flanging!Is the Solina Dutch or Italian? The Mirage worked with beer - The Synare Synth drum broke Love and Hate In the 80’sAC early days in NYC - Distance and Creation You could play a good tour as your profession.Competition’s not real. Right on!The Internet Ruins Everything it Touches Iowa City Flashback! “The Devil’s loins’, says Budgie - “Half and half”, says Avey Flyers in Ashville Oasis – Oklahoma, the city of Flaming Lips Huge airport - No people - Deja Vu or What!? Mr Moog and Mr Buchla “The Buchla is Goth!”, says LolNo Manual - Anything could happen!Avey took his music easel on Tour!Never again RTFM! ___Respect: Robert Arthur Moog (May 23, 1934 – August 21, 2005)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wild is the Wind & VulnerabilityBudgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band!Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-SoundWhen Garbage played their first London show in 1995Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy ChainsawShirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie Golden Years30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it25 Big ones for Lol in his old LA chairShirley loves Lol saying ‘Butch’ in his best Scottish accent A Hard time in LA during lockdown had Shirley return to Scotland asap Little Red CorvetteLol and Budgie dreamed of driving - Shirley drives electric dreamsNow all is Zen behind the wheel - Saving the Rage for the StageShirley was bullied as a kid - SATB helped her become Empowered!Lol and Shirley like Being Stupid sometimes Break-Up to Make-Up On Tour with The Creatures, came Budgie’s wake-up call Like an old British sitcom, Lol and Budgie share similar experiences Garbage had to break-up to stay together – to ignore what was being said The Cure & Banshees were too young to know - a year out might have saved them. Don’t Talk to Me About LoveWe talk about the C-word - Shirley wants the T-shirt!Leaving The Cure was like Lol leaving his family or Excommunication! To understand change is not easy - such a huge part of our identity. Budgie has come to know love’s changesBeing in a band is like being married - the Pot calling the Kettle Black! ChangesShirley succinctly explains being in a bandRelieved that the band has adjusted to her changes Shirley humbled by hip surgery - a triumphant story!Shirley says, forget your ego - enjoy life and seize the day.Ringo Starr says… Up yer bum! ____Respect: John Lennon (October 9th 1940 – December 8th 1980) ‘Instant Karma’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudesFinding a better way – with People that healBudgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity As we get better, better things happen Lol is Awake - Right Now!Meg stops to smell the flowersDiscovers the new in familiar places to find inspiration Don’t force it - Don’t plan it‘Hell is other people.’ said Sartre The Volcanoes of Hawaii tempted The Creatures to Feast! Dogs are Wizards - Cats are Bosses!Preparing to tour - Sad to leave the catsSafe and comfortable on stage Things get Manifested when you’re Connected In Sound and Vision Meg feels Fully Realised. Lol and Budgie - Keeping it Together! Time to Explore - Madeira Cake - Port - Bananas - Biblical Creativity comes when it wants to be Created Hair as Prayer – Lol’s dream of a Mohawk on the Astral plane Meditating - Downloads and Alignment Meg’s Dreams are her Guides! ____Respect: Simone de Beauvoir (9 January 1908 – 14 April 1986) "The Second Sex - 1949" ____ Check out Meg On Tour - April 17th thru’ May 24th CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Not the Body.Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 36 years surviving dissociation from her body the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to herNo more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer spacean epiphany of self-realization. One Universe of Expression. Shutting out the opinions and expectation of others Difficult, intense, magical time leading to greater wisdomRemoving the armour of invention Tiny deaths brought release and growth The Id not The EgoReleased from the toxicity and trauma of childhoodMeg finds new expression of self and spirit through music Resisting all outside intrusions to take time to Create a safe channel. Open to Greater Wisdom‘When there is no me, there is more authenticity.’Meg’s process of Evolution? - Hacking the System!a major perspective shift, an all-knowing Higher self Nothing to be done and Everything will be done. Hmmm…. Exactly! ____ Respect: Sister Rosetta Tharpe (March 20, 1915 – October 9, 1973)"Strange Things Happening Every Day"____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette The NIN drum throne came free againBeck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! The Youngest to be in the Hall of FameSays, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’Bob needed convincing and nothing less Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes! TOTP not OGWTIf we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba?Ilan is a Musician and Drums his first love The Rhythm of Music and the Energy of Life! More About Drums and Food!Guitarists and singers may minimize the drums but a good drummer is the making of most bands Rhythm and Voice are what most people get.Budgie drummed melodies and chords on the Kit But We Do Dig Guitarists Man!The Violin out-foxed Ilan – too strenuous to learn. No woodwind or Brass but now he plays the clarinet!Budgie left France for Berlin because Toby Dammit’s shoes sounded good.Ten Years After, and Berlin’s still, Grotty, Grimy and Grizzly Los Angeles is Super-efficient Between tours it’s cool - Before tours it’s cool – After tours it’s cool!Lol didn’t plan to live in LA - he found Love and Acceptance Los Angeles is Lol’s Home Sweet HomeBudgie thought LA would be his too? SIR – Into The Valley!Indicators out of Sync? - Drummers needing Therapy?Taiko and Dancing? - Lol 3rd Act Lessons? Budgie and Leo’s O’Daiko? - Let the Sticks do the Talking?Lol and Budgie want Roland Taikos to Dance with – Non-Dancing-Dancing! ____ Respect: Alvin Lee (1944 – 2013) ‘Ten Years After’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing deskNo exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night)Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie (Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums Instantaneous?Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains Will Budgie live in Lols garage?Jimmy Page told Pearl he’s too friggin’ loud! Budgie and the tricks of The Creatures Russian Dragon?Illan relives the Moment of Terror when his IEMs fell out.It’s time to change when Smoke and Mirrors obscure allIlan’s drum kit disappears in smoke – where does he go? Smoke and strobes transport Ilan. Drummers Corner: Ilan is right handed but he plays the hi-hat leftie Reggae showed Budgie a different drum style Titilating Titbits:Ilan loves Stewart Copeland’s mix of rock and reggaeLol plays to the voices in his headBudgie only sings when the extractor fan is in his key. Ilans toothbrush goes from major to minor.Doesn’t Yours? ____Respect: Jaki Liebezeit (26 May 1938– 22 January 2017) CAN____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything.It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young Lush stopped and Everything changedIt's good the world changed too. Early 90’s Game Changers Life without a safety net, no gold watchLol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drummingThe Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Innocent Time Gilbert and George v Lol and BudgieDrinking with The Wankers at 5amFrom Whitechapel to SohoBrit Pop was a marketing construct. Elastica’s difficult 2nd album took them to France Siouxsie and Budgie’s house for inspirational teaThere should be a Book – Book Events are Cool People always ask the question that isn't a question Miki wasn't part of any club's eliteWho’d want to be a member of the club that would have us as a member? Miki felt humiliated amongst the paraphernalia of professional drug takers Miki was not good with drugs – a weeping-jello-mess-in-crisis in the corner Lol backed off from it – a blessing in disguise. Drugs took away a lot of personalities, all looking for a good time Peer Pressure - You’re either built for it or you’re not. The High was a Low on so many levels Blimey! - We could talk forever! Did Budgie inhale? ____Respect: Nico – (1938 – 1988) ‘Chelsea Girl’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Miki as Unsettled global travellerMiki as Chameleon in retreat Miki and band as family What the industry wants, the public gets. Miki angered by press with no vision for female fronted bandsFor the lack of imagination to talk to a band with interesting corners Britop was a return to the bad of the 70’s with image and marketing dictating TOTP and the flashing neon Siouxsie sign Lol went off the rails at 22 The Cure should have taken a break Delivering product can destroy a bandThe Brits love you then hate you, the USA loves you, then loves you again. The Press Conspire!The Cure and Miki in LA for MTVBands had to fight for the right to be on a UK stage In the USA they were simply loved and welcomed. Lollapalooza! Music in America professional and respectable.Butthole surfers wanted Banshees’ Butter in their trailer Banshees witness others on a traveling circus tour – Mad but Brilliant! Miki says the whole shebang was like a Bon Jovi tour. Miki’s Admirable traits RevealedFestivals - a recipe for disaster Miki felt weird - like endless days in an Amusement ParkNine weeks of touring - Connections went missing ____ Respect: Nina Simone – (1933 – 2003) ____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Miki and Budgie met a long time ago – was it after a Curve show?Miki with Red hair, Budgie with blonde they were a good Match!Struck up many enlightening conversations!!The lost evenings with Donald - hairdresser to the stars. Budgie drank in Heaven (Underneath the Arches) Picked up a date but didn’t realise it, Not green, but pleasant, especially after a few Manhattans!We were all young then! Emotional Babies! Budgie and Lol love Miki’s Memoir! Honest and Authentic - which it’s hard to Be. Miki and Lol shared the same streets of London but never met.We walked everywhere - no phones - no way to contact Like a homing pigeon Budgie always found his way home Miki followed the tube stations - Roaming with Emma but no walkie-talkie in 5 years! Complex Band relationships suffer from outside pressure and from people with chisels. Lol empathises 100 % Miki’s experience with Emma - as his with Robert. Will we all ever speak again? Is Morrissey bitter? Many memoirs end with courtroom drama. Malcom was a rotter says Lydon. Morrissey needs an editor says Lol! That’s a complement says Miki – it’s a proper Mills & Boon. Miki haunted by Mike Hedges’ old house in France. Lol recalls a depressing Disintegration. But Pool table respite with Simon and the funny cue ball. Lol loved Miraval. The Slits loved being looked after at Ridge Farm Studios. Budgie met Viv again at a Berlin book festival - they had cake and tea and grown-up conversations. Miki is happy she had the band but happier in her new job - she’s had the best of both worlds. Lol wanted to be present for his son and so no touring thru’ his teens. We love writing as much as making music - Lol ran away at the destruction of the band. He came to America and America saved him. ____‘God Bless America’ – Irving Berlin. (1888 – 1989) ____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was The Birthday Party’s 1st London gig When Budgie gate-crashed their dressing room The party was a witty one from midnight ‘til DawnMelting in the daylight at 7am, all bright and scrubbed. Editing for K-Tel specials,Nick fearlessly edits the multi-track vertically AND horizontally!Lol bought ‘The Lamb’, with a scratch that jumped in time - A miracle! Budgie feels the spirit of ‘76 with The Chats’ Smoko,& Amyl and the Sniffers - Listen to the Big Bass Drum Lolly T and Mickey D went for Lunch in NYC Their Taxi driver played only hip-hop When The Cure came on the radio the guitars made his jaw drop! Nick was 21 on The Dreaming with Kate Bush Her sonic landscape was like The Banshees and PILLol never played to a click track – only to Robert’s voice Back when drummers kept the time! Nick’s big plans lead to ‘Peaky Blinders’ Season 6 Working with Anna Calvi, Who Budgie helped make smile again.After Anna had destroyed her dressing room! And when Lol felt The Cure played a peaky-blinder of a gig,Robert hated it and vice versa.“That’s The Drummers Dilemma” says Budgie With IEM’s Lol heard Simon for the time ever! The Banshees and Mötörhead shared crews and gearWe all loved Lemmy - Budgie and Phil-thy ‘Animal’ TaylorWere drummers in dance tightsWe’re happy we survived – and we’re not done yet!Iggy P., and Anna C., you heard it here first … Respect: Percy Edwards – Ornithologist (June 1, 1908 – June 7, 1996)Animal Sounds on The Dreaming CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol in Tasmania small and cool. Damien Hirst diamonds and Berlin fish Fool Kevorkian death blanket is the best in showMedical flip-flops in the house of Ringo. Virgin Townhouse & Hedges’ Battery. Nick and Phil Collins in drum-fill Flattery Terry Chambers and XTC – in Another Green World lives a young Budgie Nick began life in Southern Spain – moved to London for the Pistols reignGood with loops Nick remixed tapes M’s “Pop Music” gave the biggest breaks Got Nick the job with Lydon’s PILCoz’ the engineer made Johnny ill “Let’s make some Fackin’ music” – “We mean it man!” Turned Nick’s life ‘round – Lol, Clash, Budgie, Bovell, Slits can! Nick Cave and Budgie - harmonica Kings Nick and Nick Release the Bats and thingsBudgie at the Rock Garden for the Birthday Party Lol at the Marquee but Bob’s not a Smartie?Budgie and Bob pretend they’re themselvesSteve Strange showed Budgie how to shoplift the shelves Budgie in the eye of the movers and shakers An 8 piece Suicide band – any takers?Nick almost Cured in the Townhouse grounds Cure wanted Conny Plank ‘s Animal sounds We’re older than the fans - but still in Our prime We never worked with Nick - but there’s Always time! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Life was bad - only music will save Lol & Robert see the Stranglers together Worship at the thrones of Tama and ZildjianLols first kit - took years to buy! Budgie’s first kit has a facelift for Cut Meet the creme de la creme of Liverpool misfitsHansa signed The Cure for the way they looked Julianne is transformed when playing live Budgie loves talking to the audience - offstageLol prefers a big crowd – not the whites of their eyesJulianne liked the fragrance of pipe tobacco But smoke never touched her vocal cordsBudgie aspired to Sobranie Black RussianLol smoked Capstan on the school bus upstairs Lol didn’t love his 50’s but loves his 60’s Nothing really matters is our maxim today Budgie is simplifying with no second guessing We accept each moment as our third act commences Native American drums in Yosemite’s wildernessSlowing the dynamo, we go with the flow Try not to miss those magical moments Sweet Love transcends All Respect: Jet Black - ‘Golden Brown, Grip & Peaches’ (26 August 1938 – 6 December 2022) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Julianne and Budgie in Making Music Mag.No Makeup - No Instruments - No Agenda Disco 45 Mag was Lol’s fave Cure cover Song-Words Mag was Budgie’s 10p bible Glossy Crawley Colour - Grim Black & White up North Streets of gold or fairy slides in Glass walls? 18 with Permed hair - Elvis Presley or Tony Curtis? Lol was in Thin Lizzy with his Blue Velvet Jacket and Jeans? Yeah!!Julianne adopted Bowie’s ‘Low’, hair colour Budgie, Bleach and Booze at Sorbie’s SalonAll cats now greying, with blonde highlights Running Up That Hill, (we made a deal with God to reach this age!)Faust and Amon Düül Rule!!Julianne was Shy and chose The Bass Gene Loves Jezebel loved Julianne and her bass Julianne loved The Beatles harmonies Neil Young and David Cassidy and Prog RockBut Kate Bush was her Icon The Miller’s tale and The Saucy Wife of Bath Steeleye Span’s Now We Are 6Ian Anderson’s Old Coat, one leg, and a FluteJethro Tull, was THE loudest band Julianne had ever heard.We, hiding the Genesis ‘Lamb’ and ‘Selling England’ when punk happened! Charlie Watts was Lol’s bestest neighbour in Devon Julianne listened to some obscure bands like, The Cure, Siouxsie and The Banshees and Cocteau Twins And also, ‘And Also The Trees’ (now we know who they are 🙂) We all loved John McGeoch’s virtuoso brilliance – we still do.Rum Runner and Barbarella’s Clubs Birmingham, England The ‘Windrush generation and a boiling point of Thatcher’s rule. Terry Hall and growing up in Violent times. Respect: Terry Hall - ‘Our Lips Are Sealed’ (19 March 1959 – 18 December 2022) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Breaking Silence.This is Rachel’s first interview in three years - we are honoured. Serendipity.Rachel saw Lol Kissing on tour - or did Rachel see Lol on the Kissing tour? Slowdive’s future drummer Simon was two rows behind RachelThough they didn’t meet for another 1000 days. Splendiferous.Kabuki intro made the crowd go mental Spinal Tap moment Pornography playing 100 years without a crash helmetRachel’s revolving Toronto stage. Every bad haircut and stupid interview on the Web forever. Seditionaries.Rachel didn’t see a female tech until the late 90’s Christian would wear a dress if it got him in the band The Cure’s Pearl had interesting outfits More female techs in music today - yay! Subversives.Budgie honorary female with The Slits Lol didn’t leave his hotel for three days in NYC!Lol and Budgie say Exeter for the book tour. Salvationists.Still Talking after All These YearsBudgie and Viv Albertine - as if for the first time Budgie? All will be revealed in the next episode of ‘Frankie Goes to Hollywood’ Lol? Micky D and his mum say, Laurence! In Japan, it’s Mr Bud Gee San Sentinels.At 12, Rachel loved Joni Mitchell and Grace jones, at 14, Siouxsie Lol and Budgie dig the Joni Mitchell bio Lol has Sylvia Plath’s ‘Bell Jar’ in many versions.Rachel will seek out Bridget Riley. Inspirational Siren: Nico (October 16, 1938 – July 18, 1988) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bits and Bobs Rachel’s in Devon where Lol once lived tooMy flower or Mayflower? It’s a right how-do-you-do!‘Where you to?’ is ‘What’s up!’ - like a cream tea servedThe Pilgrims’ Olde English in Aspic preserved Bobs and Books Log cabin moves and Festival grooves It was Great to be out of the BooksFrom Solitary to SocialisingPlaying Gigs and Fraternising After 3 years preparing the Hooks Books and BlackheadsSecret Messages from the studio - Bye-bye blackheads hello Budgie! The Banshees and The Cure got groovy with the spiral codeHorses names and Eat The Blotter – Miles Hunt wanted to be a TruckerIt’s the wrong end of the Stickshift for the Romance of The Road Barcelona and BerlinFrom Gateshead to Brazil Budgie walks in all dry places Lol rarely left his room now he loves, and he embraces Rachel’s Grateful for it all so far from sketchy pasts The 90s were a haze, now everything’s ablaze Budgies and BanjosRachel got her first guitar at 7 years old with her head between the speakers, she would sing, ‘I’m the only Goth in Reading’ and the band names she was spreadingchanged from Slowburn into Slowdive - well it had a better ring. Bob and BeatsA video in the Warehouse of a Slowdive in The DreamhouseBudgie’s drum fill makes Bob’s Day.Siouxsie’s portrait très Risqué. Respect: Angelo Badalamenti - ‘Floating Into The Night’ (March 22 1937 - December 11 2022) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Isms Cometh! Budgie and The iconic Slits - Holly Johnson as a bad-ass-bass-player! 8th notes on the floortom - how LOW can you GO?)Don’t lose it - let your individuality flow. Simone cites Motown’s James Lee Emerson, Blockheads’ Norman Watt RoyAnd our old pal Simon Gallup as bass mentors. Plays like Poetry!Lol says Budgie is drums, Budgie says Lol is Drums, Lol says Bidgie is drims, Badgie sees Lil is Drams! Poetry like Pottery!Budgie in London’s China Town for Choco glasses and salad bowls.You don’t have to be, crazy but it helps if you are.Lol had the loudest Chinese cymbal ever, from Ray Man’s of LondonBudgie had the 2nd loudest and Singing Bowls, also from Ray Man’s of London!Jimmy Page told Pearl you’re too loud (He should know!) Potty like Putty!Lol hears Simon perfectly for the first time on Reflections!Gary Numan and subtitles on TV?Tommy Lee and Lol friends from yesteryear.Bro rate for LXB and a Shit load of drums Simone sat Monsieur le Birdie? Tommy Lee’s Gong! What is it about Tommy’s gong? - (We still love Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bell) Budgie drums and has all the accents too - (They’re Regional accents - Voice over Vocation calling)Baby Jane’s in Acapulco - Simone’s going down to Rio! - (well Mexico… not far)Simone says, if not for music it would be art – (Loves sound as healer and sign language) Lol digs Therapy in the Integratron. Budgie digs The Neon Graveyard in Vegas!Trippy and Psychedelic Newcastle and it’s neon bridge! The Fog on the Tyne is all mine all mine – (so good we said it twice)Didn’t we have a lovely time in the white hills - white hills, what white hills? What about Daevid Allen’s Gong? With Respect: James Lee Emerson - Motown’s Bass Master. (29 January 1936 – 2 August 1983) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Simone Butler:Facebook: @simonemariebutlerTwitter: @Simonemarie4Instagram: @simonembutler Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sand. Out there, post-lockdown Screamadelica tour Tokyo, Japan and everywhere more Traditional politeness for the visiting BritsFirst gigs post-pandemic, please play all the hits! Lol liked the silence and the gifts from JapanBut he drank all the bath salts, which wasn’t the planSimone received sweetness to comb through her hair Budgie got Pocari Sweat at the Manga Street fair Cherry blossom season caused a big sake thirst,Who threw the phone through the window first?Robert and Siouxsie were almost deported No return for ten years - though ‘twas never reported. The Oyster.Budgie and Simone at the breakfast bar calling Lol from Europe – to say, “Hello La!”On the bus with the crew, what’s the golden rule?Traveller’s ‘Toilette’, does not accept ‘Le Stool!’ Simone auditioned for Primal Scream She learnt all the songs and realised a dream No more living on chips and travelin’ in a van Bobby treats the band well, he’s a Gentleman Siouxsie’s manager Nils asked Budgie to auditionEx-Slits Budgie did a good Palmolive impression. Success celebrated with a ‘Roll-up’ and a beer, Lol and Simone had young Ant, Adam’s ear! The Pearl. Simone in a film about the homeless that sears. Their lonely lives lightened by the unconditional love,of a dog they can talk to when no-one else hearsIt’s a story that moves with a powerful shove. Scary ghost stories and thunder and lightning, A bus shows Budgie that his mother’s around.Simone’s grandpa’s goodbye is a story quite frightening,Lol says Budgie knows things about Lol that astound! For Lol the first 4 Cure albums are significantly spiritual Though that’s not to say others misunderstood It’s the sand in the oyster that makes the pearl beautifulIt’s not Hunky Dory - but the friction is good! ‘I don’t want a cure for this.’ ‘Love Hangover’ - Diana Ross (1976) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Simone Butler:Facebook: @simonemariebutlerTwitter: @Simonemarie4Instagram: @simonembutler Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol and Budgie Join Hands in 197940 Years Beyond Music = The Mystique of Creating Culture Two Drummers Drumming = Our Mutual BondA Gang of Starving Artists = Salt Scrub Therapy? Books and Records = Earth and Identity Art and Money - Bad in Bed? Music as Religion and Revolution Budgie meets Francis Bacon in Harrods & Lucien Freud in NY?Another Green World just two beats away.Jen has a Sylvia Plath Pen and Ink(And we don’t mean a Cockney Stink) What If?Jimi Hendrix outlived Club 27 The Grave of Jim Morrison had no GraffitiSartre and Simone de Beauvoir never met WW2 never happened and The Berlin wall never existed Why We Need.Brass plaques for Berlin’s Murdered Jews Thoughts of Our Fathers and how Europe changed.The Ability to Create from NothingKathryn Mannix and a Preparation for Dying. Is It Ever Enough? Budgie tried to leave music - but music wouldn’t let go! 30 years of Reinventing Ourselves The Cult of Lol, The Cult of Lol, The Cult of Lol (‘tis a mighty fine thang thrice!)We knew Jen would make a Groovy Episode! In love with - ‘I’m Sticking with You’ – The Velvet Underground - 1969 CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jen Loves Us! We are Nerds, Podcast virgins, we are old dogs for newwe have Budgie as Yenta - we have Lol in his pewwe have weddings in the desert - at the Church of Whatever,Budgie Tambourines for Jesus – it’s a Hooker’s Endeavour. Rock Star Cult! Like a Hawk holding Rings from Monday ‘til Sunday Every night is a Saturday when you’re in a band On a two-year tour – Jen’s teen love was the Cure It’s a Dark Gothic Berlin and a Devious Hollywood land I’m a Celebrity, Get me Out of Here! The Cult of Fandom and Marc Bolan GlamdomIs there mystery in Bowie’s bolero? Budgie’s hot chocolate and Lol’s discombobulate Are there Artichokes in Old Pescadero? The Price of Fame!It’s all so much bigger than two of us knewWill Santa Cruz welcome us soon?To circle the square - Jen leaves for elsewhereThe keys to the city or a trip to the Moon? Budgie in Berlin, Lol in LAWe wanted to leave, and a band was the ticket Home can be anywhere when we’re ok and sane.Our Past is elusive like that strange game of cricketJack Frost freezes time on our mind’s windowpane Dedicated to the memory of Marc Bolan (30 September 1947 – 16 September 1977) “Get it On – Bang a Gong – Get it On” CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Hello, Virgin Records?)Every mile away from LondonIs a mile away from where he needed to be.Subsequent Chronological Milestones: PIL (The Good Years) 79 - 85 / Killing Joke - Extremities / Ministry - In A Cage - 12 Weeks of insanityPig Face – 600 degrees of separation - Budgie has the baseball cap! NIN’S Head like a Hole and Wish / Murder Inc and still out there! Street lives…. (Rail ‘em in and Regiment)Setlists? Who uses a set-list?PIL had a looseness that belied their commitmentNew York Gig discussion – what do we start with?3000 people Martin onstage and John and Keith have left the buildingKeith Levine wanted only green lighting – John Lydon wanted to be back in the hotel. Strippers and Homework in the Dressing roomNo rehearsals - like an old-style jazz bandHow we gonna end? - Smoke signals! Serving time in North of England Labour clubsBackstage Beer in the Pot, or is it? Satisfying Sayonaras...Leaving The Mynd and its Mellotron Martin goes to LondonMelody Maker ad – Drummer required for well-known singer.“I’m really good – can I audition today?”Wait – we just Set the drummer on fire! Serendipitous Savings…Curator of Chicago’s Post Punk Museum Dressing room sign from American BandstandMartin’s Mickey Mouse watchWhiskey and Meditation Scintillating Scent of Success …Speed, Alcohol plus Scratch and Sniff Banana postcards!No. 3 = Smell of MoneyNo. 4 = Sweaty Boys in a Mosh PitNo. 5 = Paper cup from a John Peel sessionHappy Anniversaries and Memories No diary for Lol the Existentialist Two Sides to Every Story…Theory begets RealityMartin = 90% Comedian; 10% HistorianOwning our past - 1st Class or 2nd Class? Crystal clear recollections ofJohnny Rotten, Jazz Coleman and Al Jourgensen Superior Performers…A bus-full of Junkies and Chlorine Gas Tolerance and Respect for Crazy Charismatic people A Rare and Undefinable BreedMartin - The MonarchBudgie - The DukeLol - The Emperor Read it in Books.We’re blessed and grateful to be hereThree drummers and a Practice padWe belong togetherLike Three Peas in a Pod Dedicated to the Memory of Jeff Ward (November 18, 1962 – March 19, 1993) and William ‘Bill’ Fredrick Rieflin II (September 30, 1960 – March 24, 2020)CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pepper Loves TKKNYC 1000 Years ago Lol jumps Boulders in Central ParkBanshees at the Beacon TheatreLol and The Cure again for ReflectionsBudgie at The Mayflower and The Grammercy Park Watch out for the Cockroaches! Lol Loves LA - Home Sweet Home!Not Discovered or Destroyed Personalities and Support SystemsPepper’s NYC lockdown - Throwing tips for food.Booster Party Time! Budgie and Pepper Chock full of AntibodiesNYC still loud!The Stage is still Fun!Choir at 7 years old Lol - no stage fright singing Gilbert and Sullivan 10,000 people in the subway? Benny and The Jets did it for Pepper!Not Socially awkward but Social outcastsPunky Pepper met TKK in a Pittsburgh Parking lot Hot Damn! She Joins the band! Budgie on stage in Chicago with TKK The Cocktail Bar.Lol and The Cure shook Cocktails in Buckets!Pepper’s crew used a Wheelbarrow!Less than 3 or More than 3?Let’s get Completely Cathartic! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Q:1 Mark C of the Gold Coast asks will Budgie make a Beatboxing debut?Budgie demonstrates the orifice-ial beats to ‘El Dia De Los Muertos’ and ‘Tattoo’. Maybe a beatbox compilation? Q:2 Eric Vonk asks about the 1980’s synth-drum – did we fall in love?Lol went, Tsch-tsch, Stephen Morris went, ka-ka-ka-ka and Budgie went, Dink-dink & Drooove!We all were in danger of serious wrist injury – but yes, we fell in love. Q:3 Eric also asks Lol for his happiest moment in The Cure, Lol talks about the Top and coming to America. Budgie tries to paraphrase and his short-term memory loss gets the better of him. And it’s a Happy Anniversary to Us! 1979 – 43 years ago Lol and Budgie first shared a stage, when The Cure and Siouxsie and The Banshees played together at Leicester’s De Montfort Hall in England. Then the largest venue in Leicester, The Beatles also played here just after their return from Hamburg in 1963. Bet you didn’t know that – we certainly didn’t! What a happy memory, without which we probably wouldn’t be here together today. CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Only his mother and Micky D., call Lol, LaurenceBudgie posits, Micky D., polished the shoes on the tour bus Were the banshees upset when Robert left the Banshees?What would have happened - had that not happened? Strangeness in the Studio Robert there, but not there - nothing was said there.Bobby Keys only for Hyaena - It was a long album.Bob’s position was untenable. Ideal of the band was primo important to Lol Post Pornography Chemistry Dysfunction (PPCD)Lol went to Cadaques with a French girl They had a cat on a lead – Dali-esque. Hyaena and The Top, released simultaneously!The Top was restful - Japanese Whispers – was a fitting title Budgie visited the filming of The Walk video and most Cure videos Did Severin want Robert to remain a Banshee? Lisa from Newcastle carved the Fish guitar .Budgie spots the Cure constant – (?)Pornography was the pinnacle of the 3-piece Cure Budgie recalls Robert and sister Janet sitting side-by-sideRecording the harpsichord for Dear Prudence Songs built from Jams - until they’re not.Did the Banshees change Robert or did Robert just change? Where The Banshees always a 3-piece at heart? “What did we say Budgie?”“I dunno’ what did we say Lol?”“We said, what we said, is what we said.”“’Nuff said then…” CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pulling Back the Curtain: Spicy…Lollapalooza and President Obama, all Presidents want to be chefs, All chefs want to be rock stars, do all Presidents want to be rock stars? Why is going to shows no Fun anymore?We stand at the turning point, no longer second guessing. Lol reveals the live ‘Holy Hour’ bell is the sound from the record Sweet….The Art of Cooking as a Creative force,Do chefs perform their big culinary hits like, ‘Sea-Urchin Ice Cream?’ How do we balance the set list?We are just a conduit – it’s a 50/50 thing! Salty…We don’t have a menu, you eat what we like,our set-lists as menu full of question marks.Bring your friends for the gateway drug! Savoury…The Banshees were the only Brits on the First Lollapalooza Graham wasn’t running the catering then, but The Banshees had bread and butter backstage,The Butthole Surfers had only beer!Is it the place or the food Ingredients that make the Experience?Is it the sunshine and stuff? Sizzling…Graham feeds 500,000 for Obamas 49th birthday party, That’s 495,000 more than Jesus had to cater for!The Secret (Silver) Service, tasted everything, Obama took a Selfie with all the catering crew! Sugary...To make beautiful pictures, learn the rules, then throw them all awayToday’s chefs are a little less crazy - a small restaurant with simple food,Fine dining or a head-like-a-hole-in-the-wall pasta place? The show is everything, simple but satisfying. Smoking…Lol and Budgie threw away all the usual ingredients to make something unique and exciting. We gave each other the permission to throw the baby out with the bath water – Haha! Only a few blue angels and one astronaut have the know-how! The hardest thing to do, is to make or do the best one can,that says, this is who I am. (Thank you, Graham.) Raise your Forks to: La Grande Bouffe (1973) Directed by Marco Ferreri - Music: Philip Sarde.“Decadent, Self-Loathing, Cynical and Frequently Obscene” – in short perfect! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Landscape redefined by skateboarder Mason, Silva planned routines to Budgies drums It’s the space outside of the sound we’re chasin’ Cinematic for the Banshees and their chums Images influenced the sounds created Alfred Hitchock - Suburban Relapse The shower scene in Psycho, a shrine, gold-plated Herrmann’s score hitting every synapse. (Pause – aka: dead airtime – but not this time!) Charlie Mingus stressed the import of the notes un-played,PJ Harvey finds inspiration in a place un-stayed. Justin always hears sweet music in the rattle of his car Familiar London Studios became unfamiliar from afar. The Creatures flew to Hawaii, to record their debut, the jungle fed the music, and the conch shell blew.Victor Boullet played Metallica to get The Creatures mad,Ross Robinson and Simon came close to something very bad! “No Hi-hat!” ordered Siouxsie, “No Hairspray in my mix!”Budgie moved the hi-hat out but played with magic sticks,Creating things from nothing was our drumming bird’s propensity,His Drumming in the Dreamhouse throbbed with LSD intensity Justin and DMT experiment, Lol and Budgie too, Budgie, Lol and Justin want healthy things to chew. Post-abuse bodies may have survived, but some Brain tissue did not Justin’s Pre-show ritual is a strong expresso shot! On Reflections, Simon said to Lol, “Lol you’re very Zen.”Lol reflected soberly, “How weird it is to ken.” Proficiency is priority, you have to love yourself,The secret door out of the maze - is the one that’s marked ‘Good Health!’ Q: Was this the longest recording for Curious Creatures?A: You bet your sweet bippy it was! The pause is cool and beautiful and weird. And we may have a dinner date in San Diego! In Awe of: ‘Psycho’ (1960) Directed by Alfred Hitchcock - Music: Bernard Herrmann. CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He’s a reasonable Philatelist, Not an Apathetic Nihilist He’s a Dead Cross massive influence for The Locust,He’s a Wild scene Iguana, No Tequila in Tijuana!He just picked up the monitor and tore off his thumb 4 pm is an angry time for NIN to be on stageThe Opposite of Love Is Apathy, Not Nihilism or Rage When Lol saw the same back in 76 and 77 He went down to his local pub to meet people already in Heaven.Love on one hand and Hate on the other, Apathy doesn’t fit Punk to Drunk, Humanity can’t govern, What else to do with it? The Decline of Western civilization, Bill Grundy, and the Bromley ContingentSecond World War imagery, Notting Hill Gate carnival, Reaction for Attention. Weird Energy, No guitar solos, Wire 12XU delivery!Goth and double kicks, Robotic drumming and Gypsy Eyes thievery!Succinct at 17, Eye-catching at 18, Noticed at 19, Twisted at 20.Self-imposed boundaries, strange beats and TonesWe made sound into pop songs, We embraced our limitations What were your influences?Skateboarding culture and Siouxsie Sioux, as a pioneer of gender equality for Justin.Lol had Sylvia Plath to inform his thinking as a young man discovering how to play.Female singers, and female musicians helped Budgie’s evolution. How does it make you feel?Boys Don’t Cry was a strange thing for Justin as a child.Important to deal with toxic masculinity. Be ahead of yourself, say what’s wrong, do what’s right,Female musicians still have to fight.We remain Grateful for what happened on the planetJust after Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play… Remembering: ‘Gypsy Eyes’ Recorded: May – August 1968 by, The Jimi Hendrix Experience CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Q:1 Anima Animus – says, “HAI!” and She asks,Was anything Left un-released? Was anything Right un-released? Q:2 Existential Edgar asks,Will IT ever See the light of day - Probably not - No titles available. Q:3 Thomas Jackson asks, (2 Presidents worth of questions!)Is all Quiet on The Eastern Seaboard?Has he really listened to every episode of Curious Creatures? Q:4 How many Sips of tea in our Curious Creatures Mugs? Q:5 Which songs turn up as B sides? Q:6 “Can you please speak my language?” From Paris with love and Vibraphones xxxHotel on fire or Smoke on the Seine? Q:7 Yodel! Wonders is it,Cannibal Roses or Coal Mind, rooting around in your brain? Q:8 Do you ever Notice or think of, a different beast a different B-side 10:15 b/w KAA being a Double-A side was very Beatles? Q:9 Did you mean to do or was it that it just sounded great?! Q:10 The Fickle Finger of Fate asks,Are there any rules about creativity? A: as Q: Are there any creative Rules? CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All the Burning Questions….Backwards chords and Arnold Layne? The Cure loved Captain Beefheart? Hippy music for The Dandys? But Not the Grateful Dead? From AC/DC to New Wave? All the Questions that Burned….A Strange Trip? Wire and Elastica? Suede and Wire? Who’s Who?Are Wire the New Cure?Reinventing The Wheel? And Burning the Questions….Unafraid to be Wrong? Genius or Gormless? Totally Wrong or Totally Right? And some Answers!Springsteen plays everything 30 times then it’s ready! Lol takes 10 seconds to realize it was The Cure!You have to be vulnerable as a musician! Socially Awkward makes the music work and Feel Cool! Acceptance is Key! some now for something completely different….When everyone understands that We Need people that like T. Rex!Finding the Tribe!Seekers or the Tweekers?Remembering Palookaville! Godless Video Passion!Crossing bridges before they Burn!Sweep it under the carpet it’ll be Alright! Down the street from the rusty pig An orchestra that listens to Tone Loc! Oi... Pay Attention at The Back!No Bad Behavior!No Sex in the Hall!No Back up Plan! No Leadership! Remembering: ‘Obscured by Clouds’ Pink Floyd - Recorded 23 February - 6 April 1972 CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Dandy Warhols Pt. 1: Strip Club JanitorFeaturing:Courtney Taylor-Taylor as HimselfAnd Peter Holmström as Himself You’ll Never Believe it!David Bowie meets Andy Warhol - it’s a Horror story!Lol sees Stardust - it’s a Close Encounter!Budgie, Robert and Bowie get personal on the phone!Bob meets Dandy with a plan to takeover the World!The Cure staring at the Pacific Ocean.Robert and Severin’s blue cassette box Mystery.It’s Out of This World!Budgie and the Glass Spiders from Mars! The Creatures play Death Metal in Germany Budgie and Joe strummer and Birthday BumpsTopper shares Magical Secrets with Budgie Courtney wears his mom’s blouse and dad’s pants Downtown It’s a True Story!Courtney is TheStrip Club Janitor Courtney loves Budgies drumming on Spellbound!Courtney digs drum trickery on Peek-a-Boo!Prepare to meet the Derringer Reversal Phenomena! Courtney says Budgie is the most stylish drummer in historyLol Agrees : Budgie Blushes - in Glorious Technicolor!!It’s Beyond Reality!Peter Reveals his BBC TV Straight Jacket!Bohemian like you on Top of the pops a Global Sensation!Robert Smith tells of The Perils of FAME!!A Dozen Hits!!It’s Cool and Artsy!!It’s The Greatest Story Ever Told!It’s Frequent Separations and Acute Hearing Loss!It’s What it Is to be Cool at 4 years old!It’s Radar love and Killer Queens!It’s Gene Pitney and a Terrifying 24 hours from Tulsa!It’s Your Wildest Dreams Come True!It’s lyrical motivation for Lol and CourtneySpooky Words by Larry Norman.It’s “A piece of bread could buy a bag of Gold” Budgie’s 3 Words for The Dandys - Honesty, Integrity and Trust Lol 3 Words for The Dandys - Very Cool Guys! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We Start a band and Lose Ourselves - Relationships, Boundaries and Rights - Give us a Different Manner - Pictures of us as Babies - Physical Reaction to Mental Pains - The Roles we take that Change Us. The Internet let Budgie recall His 120 mins of Silence The better He Looked - The worse He felt Inside - South America 1995 - Budgie At the top of his Endgame.Freaky!We see ourselves yet not recognize ourselves - See the Reality yet doubt its Truth! We were different people. Recognition of the Places we Came from - Equality Changes Perception. Lol Free of the Angst of the Past - The Truth will Set you Free - The Audience is Listening and Knows!A Sheltered Life for Kevin - Fun being in the Gang - We’ll show them - When the band Stopped it was a Bolt from the Blue for Kevin - the Band defines you. We were all Court Jesters - Lol found the Spotlight became Destructive - The Court Jester becomes The Scapegoat - When you drive Out the Scapegoat - the Problems Remain.We were rooting for Piggy in Lord of the Flies - King Lear and The Fool - Yin and Yang? A life out of Balance – ‘Les Enfants Terrible’ - Jean Cocteau - Budgie as Bomb Disposal Specialist - Lol as The Minister keeping it Together - We are The Mental Family!Kevin as Peacekeeper - Feels Memoir will set him Free - Writing it down is the Best Thing - Life’s not Just the journey it’s the Trip Man! Kevin as Film Composer - Fantastic stuff!Dedicated to: Irwin Allen Ginsberg(3 June 1926 – 5 April 1997) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Working Men’s Clubs and US Airforce BasesDrum Fills that We Never Forget. Kevin’s Punk Bands Paid their Dues in Pubs. Sunday Lunchtime - Bauhaus Play to Happy Families. The Cure had Competition in Neil Gaiman’s punk band Iggy Pop & Peter Murphy get Playful in NYC! Budgie Hit the Anvil - Kevin Smells the Poppers - Lol Keeps his Head Down Lol lost his Eyebrows in a Studio Fireball. Steven Morris - a lovely Humble Chap.Budgie talked while Steven planned the lights for the Blue Dot Jodrell Bank Dish Budgie and Kevin Deep in The Memoir.When it Looks like a Book - Then its Real. Discovering Life Within - Peace and Understanding Hearing a Great Record - Then Realizing it’s your Band!A Band that demands 110 % loyalty. In memory of Ol’ Blue Eyes. (Frank ‘The Crooner’ Sinatra)December 12, 1915 - May 14, 1998 CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Budgie got his 1st rudiment from the film Zulu with Micheal Caine Flamming the spears on a shieldLol's rudiments came from the library Not exactly Buddy Riche's but the flavor ofLol's Triplets and Charlie Watts' hi-hat The harder you hit the drums the better the tone Budgie said . Lol just learnt the two hi-hat trick Budgie mimics the butterfly on a snare 4/4 or 3/4 and Lol's fineReggae helped Budgie get his style Buddy had the wrong haircut trying to out drum Animal!We learnt what we had to to play and made the rest upChad’s second time on CQ Austin has the best ramen or is it Piccadilly ?Liam from Liverpool Budgie left and knew Reo Reason?Bill Rieflin was Budgies pal, a true gentleman All drummers are friends Glad to help, thanks Tom. Goodnight sleep tight. Dedicated to Charlie Watts:2nd June 1941-24 August 2021 CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What Letters have we got today? asks Lol with Soto Voice One from his brother with praise for Cured and parental tales of choice Budgie became a member of many clubs, to get letters in the post, TV21 was always best with Gerry Anderson as host Eugene Huffman loves the Podcast – he was always a Banshees Boy. But the Creatures’ Anima Animus has become his overwhelming Joy. The Banshees had a nucleus of Budgie, Sev and Sioux.The Creatures merged electric with brass and woodwind too Leonard Eto and Budgie recorded drums in a studio extraneous.Hai! is solid evidence that the best stuff is spontaneous. Anima Animas began to feel like Banshees and Creatures combined Between France and New York City is where the two sounds realigned The Relief of just being the Drummer, not having to manage the Band, Made Music an Adventure of Love once more – Beauty from a grain of sand Lol and Budgie feel Relations Manifesting! Concentric Circles and Chemistry make Life more Interesting! Josephina - Jo, wants to know more, about teens that love The Banshees and The Cure. Will S thought it would be weird and disturbed, if as teens we liked music that our parents preferred! What relevance transforming from Teen to Maturity?Is the language of Music still a Universal surety? Modern Art began in 1912 - Marcel Duchamp playing chess.How old was William Shakespeare - did he ever wear a dress? Budgie ‘has a thing’ for Shawn the Sheep and Selling England by The Pound Lol ‘still digs’ The Lamb Lies Down and its Magical Mystical Punky Sound! Keith from the Void asks about the ring of the Ludwig steel Black Beauty snare With longer sticks and a bigger kit would Andy Partridge even care? Budgie met Phil Collins in a BBC TOTP Bathroom. Are we Surprised? Not really! Decorum Came Later CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Menu: Hors d’Ouvre:Maestro Chef - John McGeochGreat Guitarist’s Sleight of Hand Baffles Copyists!Soup and Champers - The Ultimate Hangover Cure (see also Haggis etc)Roadside Snack - Currywurst and Scotch Eggs!Lol in Graceland - Everything is Elvis Crazy ‘cept the Kitchen aka The Church Entrée:Graceland is Small - The Plane Lisa Marie is Small - Was Elvis Myopic? One Pre-Show Drink - Could a Great Gig Make! Robert Smith - Does His Onstage Drinks Routine Reveal an OCD? Dessert:Lol Wonders if His Laundry is Done - Investigating Sylvia Plath’s College. MGT Recalls Nottingham Rock City - Budgie Recalls the Angels’ Harley Davidsons. Pearl gets support with a Fever of 105F. Aperitif:Is Beer Bad for Singers? The Secret Screen and Bucket? No, it’s not a Pub. Budgie recalls Rick Wakeman’s Curry in a Hurry and Siouxsie in his Bass Drum – Nice MGT remembers The Mission’s behind the Amps Bucket Routine. Digestif:Pregnant Pause - The name of MGTs next band. Budgie - Back on The Road Again. Andy’s London Guitar Store. Bob and The Woolworth pick-ups Do a Runner:Nah? Really? Punk or Wot? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Miles wanted to be a trucker, zooming around the world.Budgie and Lol always Up front with the bus driver. Miles was a drummer!All drummers are friends and everyone that works on Curious Creatures is a drummerMark Gemini Thwaite aka MGT jams with Tricky and The Creatures and also played with Lol and The Curse for charityMiles three favorite drummers Lol, Budgie and Pete de Freitas !Miles stopped playing drums like Budgie and Lol - too exhausting !Steve and his blog likes the violin Miles says F*&K every sentencePop bullshit and fisticuffs.Calvin and Budgie bashing the beats. Grey hair! Lol says we won’t tour in Steve CityLol loved Pistols TV show Malcolm McLaren was spot on.Band security tales: Nigel Welsh, bare knuckle boxer, kept the band apartMGT, Tricky and “Uncle Tony” British gangsters from the East End. Gentle German Micheal for the CureMotörhead lovely to to the Cure at the Reading Festival "here you go lads have some vodka!"Hey, didn’t your bass player torch Sarah ?Lol has writerly admiration for Miles and his 100,000 wordsMiles inhabits the words right back in the day. Budgie & Lol can relate .Absolutely Cathartic. Helps Miles go to a better space. Martin, Rob and Miles The kids that had each others backs, back in the day.You run so fast at the the start you need to explain it all to yourself The primary purpose is taking care of each other a little more experience of life would be good thing Lol was on the fast road to nowhere. So he got off the train.The Covid bench-MGT played for two!! Milos last record?Budgie would be minted with Spellbound ! Get the vinyl soundtrack for Stranger Things!Did you play Bomber ? The Ace Of Spades:Dedicated to Lemmy24 December 1945 - 28 December 2015 CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1st - a story about a teacher. 2nd - a magic ephemeral feeling. 3rd - Music be the thread that weaves through time. 4th - There Was No Question - But We Found One 5th - Lol, Robert and Micky D., loved their English teacher. 6th - Budgie performed Kes for the English class 7th - Favourite Pub? The George for Lol - The War Room in ‘Ye Cracke’ for Budgie. 8th - Japanese Whispers - The Upstairs Room is Lol’s favourite, those beautiful London dawn mists. 9th - The gatefold poster of Lol and Robert - What’s not to Love? 10th - See Lol’s LGTB Costume in the Hall of Fame Museum. Lol’s Magician dress from The Walk? 11th - Tinderbox: London to Berlin. Favourite beat? ‘Land’s End’ - 50 ways to Kill your Lover? 12th - Surreal? Yes! Hindsight? Wonderful! Blessed to Here Where Truth is Stranger than Fiction. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dedicated to: Pete Shelley (17 April 1955 – 6 December 2018)Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn’t’ve?)The Curated '90s gave way to a Rebirth of Internet Rock ‘n Roll - Myspace and Tumblr. Is Indie Sleaze a way of being performance-based with serious Gusto!?T.V.O.D.Live Energy. DIY bands. Punk Revisited. When an Online blog with Trashy Aesthetics were Off the wall. M.I.A.Olivia's mum and Budgie come from Liverpool!Olivia Comes of Age in Toronto 2000 when Pot Heads Rule! Olivia’s Progress - University, Running a Radio show, Into Band Culture. A Pandemic Playlist. And VOILA! The Idea for Indie Sleaze – Magically appears and No Pot!Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs, on the TV and on the radio, Justice is Huge.First it was Landfill, then Euro-Trash, then Indie sleaze. Music, Fashion, and Culture – What more could you Want?L.A.M.F.Uber Sleaze FB Group. Sounds like 1970 - 1980’s NYC that Budgie and Lol Loved.An Archive and Influence Source for Now Bands. A Vibrant Internet Community following where Brit-Pop DIY ethics Led - Just like Punk!!Indie Sleaze, the New Punk Thrift, Stop of cool! Creativity without Restriction Rules! G.L.O.R.I.A.Smashing The Glass ceiling for Female artists. When Karen O said ‘No’ to things she didn't feel comfortable with, it propelled her forward positively. Music is still the Lingua Franca between us all. Another Music in a Different Kitchen! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Indie SleazeInstagram: @indiesleazeLinktree: https://linktr.ee/indiesleaze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What Shall We Do with A Drunken Sailor? – (Make them Clean the Carpets!)It was 20 years ago today! Seven Year Itch at Coachella 2002. Q.) Where did we leave our Hearts & Where do the Flowers Grow so Very High?A.) San Francisco – Fave Venues - The Warfield and The I-Beam Lol and Budgie wannabe Steve McQueen in What Film? The American Dream is our future and Billy idol uses Lol’s Optometrist The state of California is Budgie’s favourite venue!?! but who said, ‘California is not a Place, it’s a State of Mind.’? Hong Kong Garden – Big Toe Boots for Budgie – for Bamboo Climbing and Drumming!Lol wears them for Taiko in LA. But did he Play in Hong Kong?Budgie and Kirk Douglas Dine together at the Holiday Inn Hong Kong. Do The Cure and The Banshees Smell Like Teen Spirit? “Cor Baby, That’s Really Free!” says John Otway & Wild Willy Barret‘Hey Man, they’re really digging this stuff!’ says Budgie Music is Universal and Communicates! Elliot Ness and The Untouchables - an old recording to steal some magic from.Raising an older brother’s records - time waits for no man My dad and Grandad love your music!Who are Budgie and Lol? The Police & The Banshees’ Surrey Sound Studios is now a Cricket shop! Is Budgie’s proudest recording moment, playing bass on The Slap of Leather on Willow or Tenant on Kaleidoscope? On which ‘Short’ titled recording did The Cure swap instruments? Where is Lol’s fave Recording Location in the South of France, Mirador, Mordor or Miraval? Blissful solitude until who, Sailed his yacht into Nice harbour? Who is the ‘Tiny’ link between, The Pope, The Cure in Orange and a Theatre in Nice! Lol Pirated which Captain’s boat and went for a Sail on the High Seas?Captain Sensible, Captain Marvel, or Captain Bill?Lol landed in Antibes and Simon Le Bon piped him aboard! Budgie Sings which Sea Shanty? (The Clue is in the Title) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THE EMOTIONAL CONNECTIONS – (How Not To Be Alone)The Red Hot Chili Peppers - Eddie Vedder - Pearl Jam - Morrisey - Dot Hacker and Pluralone Does Josh Leave LA or Tour with Sparks? - Is This Town Not Big Enough?Josh as Young and Lucky, Shy but Open to Saying, Yes – I Can!The Perils of Looping, Feeding the Squirrels and Answering the Telephone.Is Josh Living Life in Reverse?Josh and Budgie just wanted to say Hi to their Heroes / Josh Stays True to His Inner ChildLol had a Hand in Josh’s Hall of Fame InductionJosh Reveals His Potential as Kitchen Mouse Stalker!He asks Himself, ‘Who Are You?’ / Should Josh disconnect his Phone?Josh says, ‘Have Belief in One’s Own Perception of The World - It’s A Life Worth Living.’Will He Return for a Cup of Tea?Josh says, ‘I’ll Be Back’ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Josh KlinghofferFacebook: @pluraloneInstagram: @pluralone_officialTwitter: @Pluralone1 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

BEING RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW! – (What it was like, what happened and what it’s like now.)Budgie discovered the Chill Out Zone with Ben Juno Reactor.Lol discovered his Brave New World post Cure.How our Rolls have Changed. We simply have to have all the GEAR!! Football – Squash – Motorcycles or Bowling – We Have to have the Correct Shoes!Lol went Skiing, (Skiing not Surfing) Budgie played Golf.Drumming is like riding a bicycle once you learn you never forget. Life Changed and Drums came to The Rescue.Lol went back on the road with his book Cured – Just like the Old days.Hung out with Run DMC in New Orleans. We meet Again – 30 Years Later to make Music.“The Power of Love” thank you Holly Johnson.We must love ourselves to receive love. What about our old Dysfunctional Families – The Cure and The Banshees.Are we Historical or Histrionic?Together we have made Beautiful Music – Sweet, Sweet MusicBudgie is writing a Memoir and touring Europe with Hercules and Love Affair.Lol has a new Book and together – We plan to Tour and have Lots of FUN! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Early Prophets of Dark Deviant Magic & Voodoo (Siouxsie sings about sick serial killers and surveillance cameras.) Lol introduces:Nightshift as John McGeoch’s Finest hour.Its Shimmering Tension - a Simmering Sizzling Juggernaut. If Budgie was forced to choose, Nightshift would be his finest hour too! Lol says,“Budgie reintroduced the ride cymbal back into the lexicon of drumming, without that ride cymbal it would be nothing! A sinister sexy cauldron swirling around.”Budgie blushes and shares his admiration for Animal and Louis Bellson! Budgie tells of,The Banshees visiting The Cure recording Pornography at RAK London. The Cure kept a well-stocked bar for visiting minstrels and wastrels!You’ll always find Drummers in the Kitchen at Parties. Lol and Budgie say,Juju and Pornography go together like a Cloak and Dagger.Both recorded live in a big studio with no separation.Juju songs played live before recording, just like a new band. John McGeoch said,It’s more Hitchcock than Hammer Horror. More Blood dripping on a Daisy, than Fangs biting flesh. Into The LightJohn McGeoch used a gizmo with cog wheels to bow his guitar. Budgie develops Octopus limbs. Lol says,Bands after the Banshees didn’t have that tension. The drop and the twist is all. The push and pull gives the songs their strength. Juju is the sound of a band with a Coherent Narrative - they knew what they wanted. This version of The Banshees IS The Banshees. They Look and Sound like a real band with Authentic Chemistry. Budgie says, Every day arriving to record at Surrey Sound Studios, felt like a sunny morning! Lol sums it Up,To appreciate the lyrics, we don’t need to know all the details. Like a movie, the Best albums reflect the times and the Cultural Situation. Juju was ahead of its time. Dedicated to: Louie Bellson (6 July 1924 – 14 February 2009) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And how it was that….Lol didn’t revere HIM until Low.How HE was L’Homme Existential with the Hennaed hair .Budgie remembers HIM making the duffel coat cool. HIS music and lyrics.HIS harmonica on Low returns on Blackstar.‘What In The World’…Briny Eggs Wrapped in Offal downed with Halves of Beer down the pub!(To be said very fast after drinking a yard of ale)‘Sound’…the Glam drummer from the Spiders and Woody Woodmansey’s U-Boat Panic in Detroit and Rebel Rebel, Sowing the Seeds of Punk. Glam rock it wasn’t just the Visuals ‘and Vision’…Budgie is reading Paul Morley’s Bible - The Age of Bowie.1977 Bowie appears on Marc Bolan’s TV show. Bolan is still in Glam rags - HE has moved onHE had reinvented himself - a pivotal point - Lol could understand HIM nowBowie was accepted by the Punks and the New Romantics - HE synthesises Society and Culture ‘Always Crashing in The Same Car’…Budgies deems Nick Lowe’s spoof of Low - Unfunny!Tony Visconti on The Secret Setting of the Eventide Harmonizer and the LOW snare drum sound, “it fucks with the fabric of time!”Bowie’s drum sticks handed over from Dennis Davis to Sterling Campbell LOW arrives as Lol and Budgie begin. Influenced by its tangents. WE never tire of listening to LOW. LOW gave us permission – LOW stated there are no rules! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol's orange punk jacket and pants from the thrift store and pointy boots. The album that went with this outfit was the Clash’s first album. The picture on the back of the album is the Notting Hill Gate carnival. Lol is in it mentally and spiritually. “We’re a garage band, we come from Garageland.” The Stranglers on the college juke box for Budgie. For Lol, it was white punks on dope on the college juke box. Janie Jones was the track for Budgie on The Clash album. The lyrics were it for Budgie. The message was the thing for Budgie and Lol. Lol's No Change jacket was his Clash clothes. Ian Curtis had a No Future jacket. Lol danced with Jean Jaques and lived! The Clash at Top Rank Bingo and the Leisure Center, a faceless new-brutalist building. The tabloids bought the police to the gigs; Joe tried to calm the crowds and get off the PA! Undercurrent of violence. Budgie met Paul Simonon steel brush hair and chiseled features. Attitude was key! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which they discuss: The Album at The Centre of The Banshees’ Split! Budgie leaves Liverpool for London - finds fluorescent socks and The Artful Dodger aka Steve Strange. / London’s empty Apartments are a Network of Knowledge for Survival in Post-war Britain / Money was Scarce, Ideas were Plentiful. Budgie’s management was Swingbest - The Sex Pistols management was Glitterbest / The London Scene was Exclusive - Budgie lands in its Centre as Drummer with The Slits Opening for The Clash on their ‘Sort it Out’ tour / Budgie watched Topper watched Budgie / Lol hears the Beginning of Budgie’s Style. From Island Records’ Jamaica Hub in London to Ridge Farm Recording Studio in Surrey, Cut begins on Passion Sunday, April 1st 1979 / Viv Albertine and Mick Jones are the Romeo and Juliet of Viv’s lyrics / No Punk Rock for Ari Up! / A 4 Week Emotional Roller Coaster but The Food was Amazing! Budgie’s Trojan Records - Reggae Roots nurtured by Cut producer Dennis ‘Blackbeard’ Bovell / Blackbeard ‘Moonlights’ producing Linton Kwesi Johnson’s album ‘Forces of Victory’, back to back with ‘Cut’ / Viv says, Budgie was an extraordinary man to find / Ari and Budgie connected with a Passion for Beats and Pulse / The Slits found Their Gang - started by original Drummer Palmolive / Budgie embraced the Spirit of Palmolive and found his Own / A Magic Time! Dedicated to: Ariane Daniele Forster - Ari Up (17 January 1962 – 20 October 2010) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1981 The Stones turn up to see The Stray Cats in London! Slim Jim meets Siouxsie and Budgie. Lol sees The Cats strut their stuff at the Marquee. They’re the greatest band in the world but, they have No name! This is how they started New Hair Cuts! Got all the Gear! Hello Blue Cats! Any new haircut was cool. Lot of cross-over in punk-era London. Stray Cats - the most British, US new wave band on MTV. They thought Terry Thomas and Ringo Starr would greet them at the airport in London. Floors we have slept on! An 18-yr old Jennie Vee, made pilgrimage to London, took up bass and guitar and convinced John Peel she had a band. The truth: There’s no band without a sick drummer! Budgie did his 10,000 hours at Eric’s Club Liverpool. Budgie’s secret? he sings all his beats and sang himself to sleep to the Beatles. We All love Ringo getting inside the song and the pure joy of drumming. Drumming as a bloodsport! Lol and Tony Kanal share a moment at The Greek with all Jim’s pals! Jennie Vee says, the greatest feeling is just to rock . Don’t do no crazy riff, just the joy of the moment is all. The county clerk married Jennie and Jim on Zoom. We plan The big wedding party all star gig! Lol was married in Vegas. Dick Smothers was next in the line. Budgie got married in Hong Kong. Ronnie lane bumped into the Cats .Gave them the space in his house to be the band they became .. A hybrid of Punk & New Rockabilly. An emotional moment for Budgie . Still singing the songs. All roads lead to Eddie Cochran! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Slim Jim Phantom & Jennie VeeWebsite:https://www.slimjimphantom.com/our-storyFacebook: @officialsjp, @jennieveemusicInstagram: @officialslimjimphantom, @thejennieveeTwitter: @officialslimjim, @thejennievee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A thread that pulls you through the years @rockhall-13 million people in 27 years! Cleveland, Bowies' first us gig here, Jimi Hendrix, came back. Alan Freed coined the phrase rock and Roll. I.M. Pei designed the museum building after he had seen The Who and Stones. Created a very energetic and emotional structure. The home of America's great art. Lol agrees that the design is suitable. The most relevant museum to people's lives The museum of the people. Lol sees his Let's Go To Bed outfit! In a case! The HOF was very emotional and blew Lols mind only 351 Bands in the HOF. Budgie knows the magic language of RnR. The hardest part is, it's such a big story from Punk, Patti Smith and Television. Lol and Budgie pledge to raise money for the new Post Punk annex "maybe it will be named after them, "Lols and Budgie Collection of Curious Creatures "( ?!) Lols brother still listens to John Lee Hooker. Budgie and Lol learned Blues on Sunday lunchtime at the pubs of England. The constant back and forth of the form is The engine. Budgie has the tip of Ringo's drumstick. Played an old banjo, and it became Budgies Excalibur sword! Greg ran the Philadelphia record exchange. It's still going. The center of the place for our tribe. Even on the internet, record stores are a valuable items. Their connection with live music is vital still. Rock and Roll will never die! Fans know a lot, and they are reservoirs of memory . Post-punk is still loved. Budgies confesses he liked Glen Miller's "in the mood." Budgies knows there's no crying in baseball (only in music). Music condenses time. Get on stage, and you are ageless. Budgie and Lol are still here and thriving. Lols confesses his zombie love. It's all humbling and flattering at the same time. Budgie finds out Howling Wolf's guitar is in the HOF. Budgie recounts the sad story of Joe Strummer's guitar and sings the drums of Tommy Gunn! The jukebox in his head. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Rock and Roll Hal of Fame Website: https://www.rockhall.comFacebook: @rockandrollhalloffameInstagram: @rockhallTwitter: @rockhall Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this Episode Lol and Budgie continue our talk with: Zola Jesus with whom, we discuss: Zola in LA - Seattle and Wisconsin / Sacred Bones and family. A Spiritual Strength to ground you / Zola’s black metal box in the woods. Lol imagines a desert commune / A post-punk Kibbutz / Budgie acknowledges strong women. Zola battles the male power dynamic and the Dark Witch Goddess archetype Women in music - is it getting better? / Zola and the balance of masculine-feminine traits. Progress in the Present! / Is the record industry any better? / As Deviants, We Always find a Way! Budgie rediscovers Malaria and Berlin’s community / Zola is channelling Brian Eno & Bowie So much Good music Then - So much Good music Now! / We are in a Transition period. An Emotionally Fertile Ground for Art Exists Now! Dedicated to: Ariane Daniele Forster - Ari Up (17 January 1962 – 20 October 2010) ‘ARKHON ‘ - New Zola Jesus Album May 20 via Sacred Bones“ Stick around and then we'll see ” CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: http://www.loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Zola Jesus:Website: http://www.zolajesus.comFacebook: @zolajesusofficialInstagram: @zolajesusTwitter: @zolajesus Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Music is an all encompassing but insular process. A different air. Space and place is important . The Creatures played blind mans buff with a map of the world. The amazing three day New Years eve! Budgie bought Heinz baked beans and some drum sticks to Hawaii. A sense of occasion. To go outside of the normal experience. You have to grow by being put in a different environment and then responding. You need to unravel. Life is about risking things. Lol found Love in Los Angeles. Punk gave us a kick. People work more with references now rather than their own experience. Constant access to music from references that was made from an idiosyncratic place. No to curation, it's not life! Zola is in this for the music not the industry which does not reward innovation. More gradient less algorithm. Weightlifting to the Dead Kennedys. She was a 6 year old opera singer. Resplendent in Red in Seattle like a zoo animal. Performing is a chance to let your ID go wild and lose control! Diamanda Galás as example. Budgie and Lol found our tribe in our youth. As did Zola growing up in Wisconsin in the woods. Feeling like an introverted outcast. Making music is like putting out the feelers to find people in common. That’s what music community is about. Music holds communal catharsis. We are in a period of transition - pandemic, politics, change is coming. We’re still hopeful after all these years! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Zola Jesus:Facebook: @zolajesusofficialInstagram: @zolajesusTwitter: @zolajesus Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Strangers visiting were a different breed, an assault on our sensibilities. The people were real. It was candy, floss, toffee apples, and diesel. No internet, so no real connections/Lol had the library books and records, to develop a sense of discovery. Make a band and travel the world. Minor eccentrics would visit the workshop of humanity. A selection of institutional people that we interacted with. Mass murders at the fair? Extraordinary experiences then to the local pub. Lol had his ear pierced at sixteen, a rite of passage, bottles of cider in the park or on the couch. Budgie liked the waltzer. And the green caterpillar. Childhood images. Lol loved the ghost train too, banging doors. Tales of the unknown. Peepshow Budgie recording the secret carousel, thrills of the unknown Monsters under the bed and the hot water heater - Yikes! Country Road at night with fog is not scary. The old fighter pilot was buzzing about on a motorcycle. Run lads! Mists and tree lamps are melancholy, not frightening. Misty moors Dickens' Great Expectations and The Hound of the Baskervilles. Crucifix Lane, the London hospital, and Peter Sutcliffe and Dennis Nilsen OMG !!! Screaming and police whistles and tall black shadows with a cape. Isle of dogs and Melrose Avenue.CONNECT WITH USCurious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First album takes three years and the next a millionth of the timeDid a new Specials album no Ska! Probably a new record coming, and Specials unplugged works great. All looking well! Lockdown produced covers of protest songs Terry has to have no distractions and go to Paris. First tour since lockdown was fantastic. Lol remembers his first Specials show in 1979 at Bilzen Festival absolutely spectacular! It was the best show they ever did. Life changing! Utterly mental. Lol learns backgammon. No Tour games for the Specials. Budgie played subbuteo with The Cult. Banshees played Clue and Yahtzee. The Cure played football and cricket inside the stadium. Bad idea. The Specials weren’t mates. Two types of groups: mates from School (The Cure) and the guy with a master plan and cherry picked guys (The Specials) Class of 1979 the music was the common thread for the specials. Banshees had a ferocious kind of loyalty. Terry was a punk rocker in the squad Burning Spear and Marley were the road in for Horace. Budgie remembers The Slits. He knew how to rehearse as did Lol three years for the Cure rehearsal no Christmas for the Smiths - the Cure are banging away in the woodshed. Middle of the 70’s in England was full of discontent. Music was our salvation. Music is transcendental. In 1977 Bowies Low and The Clash. Nick Drake miserable and beautiful. The way you get the music wrong is the way you get your own sound. the Skatellites told The Specials 'you play too fast". Garvey’s ghost/Burning Spear and Bob Marley live. Led Zeppelin scared the s*&% out of him. Horace says he has very little to complain about. The Specials was a great way to see the art galleries of the world. When you're hot, you're hot then you spilt up. Why don’t you take a break? Lol likes being liberated at sixty. It's mostly about relationships. We find out that The Specials would do any festival The Cure were on because we had a proper guitar tuner. Still best of mates all these years later! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Horace Panter:Facebook: @horacepanter, @thespecials Twitter: @horacepanterart, @thespecialsInstagram: @horacepanter, @thespecials Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The A to Z of NYC / Armour wearing on Avenue CPunk Rock style and Attitude / 70’s Commercial Radio v College RadioWhen REM were Cool / when the NME reached N. Carolina1991 Anarchy from the USA - The Yanks invade the UKSuperchunk played The Old Trout or was it, Windsor soup?Post Punk-All bets are off / The Slits disregard all regardlessOur Emotional Reaction to Synthesizers / Peter Zinovieff’s ‘A Lollipop for Papa’ is Budgie’s first synth experiment / Love & Hate, The Osmond's‘Crazy Horses’ was well, crazy! Curious Questions in which we discuss:The Ups & Downs of collaborating with colourful and talented people.Lol shares fond memories of Billy McKenzie / Budgie recalls being conducted by Thomas Dolby impersonating Magnus Pyke / Hey, hey, what’s that sound? / Is it Siouxsie’s knee, the rattling of skeletons, Caterpillar’s, butterfly wings or more leather pants? Find out if it’s all a load of old Dickens, or just more Bollocks and Farts! CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Mac McCaughanWebsite: https://mergerecords.comWebsite: http://superchunk.comFacebook: @mergerecordsInstagram: @macsuperchunkTwitter: @MacMerge Dedicated to: Peter Zinovieff (26 Jan 1933 - 23 June 2021) Founder of EMS, maker of the VCS3 Synthesiser.Wild Loneliness Superchunk's new album was released Feb 22nd, on the band’s own Merge Records labelLead track: Endless Summer - “I’ll still make the coffee, and we still make the beds, and the kids are scarred but smarter Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Wild Loneliness Superchunk's new album was released Feb 22nd, on the band’s own Merge Records labelLead track: Endless Summer - “I’ll still make the coffee, and we still make the beds, and the kids are scarred but smarter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dedicated to: Tony Allen (20 July 1940 – 30 April 2020)Fela Kuti / Afro Beat & Afro Funk In this episode Lol and Budgie talk to: Joan Wasser Joan as Violinist with a White Mohawk / Joan as The Driver in a V8 Ford Mustang Joan and Budgie as Cyclists in their Cities / Lol & Budgie responsible for the Melancholy Lol, Robert & Michael as Burglars in their school music room to make some noise! The Cure had a Box of Words almost Lost in A Fire. (In Cairo?) Joan with John Cale / Nico / Laurie Anderson / Cocteau Twins and The Velvet Underground Writing for Whitney Houston / Channeling David Bowie with Tony Allen Joan Reveals the Process and Depth of Emotion in Live Performance Overcoming Fear, Anger and Angst / Joan as Changeling / Did we get that Currywurst? Joan As Police Woman‘The Solution Is Restless ‘ (New Album with Tony Allen & Dave Okumu)“How do you like it, how do you like it, how do you like it?” CONNECT WITH US Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Joan As Police Woman:Website: https://joanaspolicewoman.com/ Facebook: @joanaspolicewomanTwitter: @joanpolicewomanInstagram: @joanaspolicewoman Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are chuffed to see the Bunnyman! Will just got off tour; it was 11 out of 10- weird! People still like our band's music all these years later. Ancient history. It's just weird? Bugger all else to do so we plundered a lot of different music. Whats a wooly back? A sheep in wolf's clothing. Paul Rutherford in radical Pajamas. Band names had to be short to write on yer gasbag. Until Punk, music life was unobtainable, Punk said you don't need any of that. Will's book is a social history. It's Brilliant: Kirby = Crawley. Will explains the "Cure "photo in his book. Wills brother thought the Cure were the Bunnymen! We had identical suits, perhaps? MVCU, where Budgie was happy to spray the door. Boris makes a surprise appearance on the show! One night of madness in Crawley, like being in the trenches. Will saw the Cure, Passions, and Associates in Liverpool Erics. All bands played Erics despite the beer swamp and low ceiling. It was a big deal when Budgie left Liverpool. Budgies gone, what are we going to do? Grist for the mill works. The three survivors. There are plenty of casualties out there; Budgie, Lol, and Will discover that they have a Psychic commonality. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Will SergeantFacebook: @offical.willsergeantTwitter: @Will_FuzzInstagram: @willsergeant Echo and the BunnymenFacebook: @thebunnymenTwitter: @BunnymenInstagram: @officialbunnymen Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Cure’s first album, Three Imaginary Boys, released in 1979, was made into a compilation called Boys Don’t Cry for the American market in 1980. Welcome to a slightly different format of Curious Creatures, in which Lol and Budgie discuss a specific topic in more detail. In this first episode, Lol talks about Boys Don’t Cry and Cure manager Chris Parry’s penchant for not wearing socks, a naked drum sound, or playing the drums naked? Was it The Jam’s kit, or was it XTC’s? Being Fearless and Full of Fear. Red light fever, two hands are faster than one!The urgency of accuracy and the importance of serendipity in creativity.And finally, for the secret of Fire in Cairo - Tune in on Tuesday!! CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For more info visit us online at: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Which silver screen superstar honed his comedic chops behind bars while doing time for slinging cocaine? Which movie mogul's home in the Hollywood hills played host to one of the most heinous and notorious crimes of the 1970s? And how did ONE movie franchise supposedly curse FOUR different actors, leading them each to an early grave? Hear the unbelievable but true stories behind these questions and more in BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland. BADLANDS is a true-crime anthology podcast from Jake Brennan, creator and host of the award-winning music and true crime podcast DISGRACELAND. BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland is all about the dirty deeds of Tinseltown A-listers whose crimes and career lows were as unbelievable as some of their films' plot twists. Beginning February 16th, listen each week for wild stories about Robert Downey Jr., Gianni Versace, Sal Mineo, Tim Allen, Heath Ledger, Jack Nicholson, Brittany Murphy, the Poltergeist Curse, Robert Mitchum, and Elizabeth Short a/k/a The Black Dahlia. Follow BADLANDS on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Wondery+, or wherever you get your podcasts. BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland premieres February 16th with new episodes available every Wednesday. Or, beginning February 16th, you can binge the whole season of 10 episodes on Amazon Music. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol and Budgie discuss[es] birthdays they have spent in the studio (Lol for 17 Seconds) or on the road having the bus party (Budgie). Everything closed in London at Christmas. We only got home just in time. Every day is Saturday in a band, even if it's Monday. Unless it's Boxing Day. We would be working every weekend. Hey, we signed up for it. We were the monks of music, leading a disciplined life, sort of! Budgie reveals a lovely Birthday gift he had made for Siouxsie and names the designer who made the beautiful blue shirt in his Wikipedia photo. But why was Lol wearing a pink dress? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Deranged stalkers, heroin hounds, and the leering eyes of the FBI; find out who’s visiting Disgraceland this winter in the Season 9 trailer of Disgraceland. The newest season of the award-winning music and true crime podcast premieres January 11, 2022. Check out the first 8 seasons, and the NEW season of Disgraceland, only on Amazon Music. For episode notes and other great shows, visit doubleelvis.com and join the Disgraceland community on Twitch and Instagram for behind the scenes talks, music history discussions and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which lol and Budgie discover why Lol won't eat leftovers. They leave home and make Lobby Scouse and omelets. Alice Cooper and pressure cookers. Wasps and Bangers, baked potatoes, baked beans, and tea! It's necessary to have your own caterers on tour. Meeting other bands at a service station means-punk rock food fight! The Italians and Dutch have gourmet truck stops. Lol enjoys the flower bowls of Holland, while Budgie likes the comfortable, considerate seating in Tokyo eateries. The Greek restaurant in London was smashing. Literally! CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kate comes to LA. We learn the drummers are driving the ship. Holistically in control of everything! Like Lol, Kate got her DL in California. NYC is okay when you're young but it's hard. Kate started to work in TV. Never thought she would end up in LA. You have to be open and willing to take risks. LA is a small town masquerading as a big city where you can wear big boots and coats even when you don't need too. Beach Goths! Kate and Lol discuss the Thomas guide and getting around LA in 20 mins. Kate knows about the knowledge! She did the artists way (like us) fell in love with someone in LA and ended up working with Ellen DeGeneres after an LA lunch! Even despite her NYC parking anxiety. Now she produces talk shows. Budgie asks Kate to critique us. We are walking the fine line and flowing - phew! Thanks for holding our hands, you cheeky thing! Drums are our communication. Telling the story. Never plain vanilla, we had a different approach. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Kate Schellenbach:Facebook: @LusciousJacksonTwitter: @usciousJckson @Kates66Instagram: @lusciousjackson, @Kates66 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We realize we are all drummers! Budgie makes a voodoo dolly of Siouxsie. We find out Kate's teen fantasy comes true when she replaces Clem Burke in Blondie! Kate reveals at 15 she blagged her way into the Ritz to interview the Banshees. Budgie let Kate sit behind his kit! She lets him know he's her favorite drummer!! Cheeky! Budgie and Lol and female drummers we have known. Her alter ego "Kate Nails, from The Face" got to see Culture club at the Palladium for free! A lucky life. Because of clubs and cool kids and the Beastie Boys. Concorde stories. The tailor on the plane in London measured you for your suit that was presented to you on arrival in Hong Kong! Mach 2! CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst:Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Kate Schellenbach:Facebook: @LusciousJacksonTwitter: @usciousJckson @Kates66Instagram: @lusciousjackson, @Kates66 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol and Budgie play the Utah rodeo - a dust bowl of outsiders. The "Lush Lounge" provided libations as did the aptly named "Eat Your Heart Out" mixing up buckets of cocktails on the road. Budgie passed the drinks across the kit in Colorado. Lol had 23 shows in Australia and life seemed just like the Blues Brothers. Sorry about the show! The banshees play the Whisky a Go Go - why are people wearing bin liners (trash bags) in the heat? Our second home was the USA..." it’s been the ruin of many a poor boy" and I, I know am one. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

IT makes no sense, Budgie and Lol find out, if you don't like music because it's like not breathing! When you discover the passion and know what you want to do with your life is mostly a teen thing. Hard to find stuff is what makes you want to do it more the more obscure the better But don't try too hard to be different. You only need three chords and the truth is true even in skateboarding. You need a good crew whatever you do. Lol and Budgie discover there are a lot of similarities, for instance the stairwell is a creative place. The drums are definitely the drama in the songs with the lyric. Liberated cymbals! The goldmine that was Ray Man's store. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Mason Silva: Instagram: @masonsilva Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which Budgie and Lol discover they were a little scared of normal. We knew what we didn’t want to sound like, but loved the Ramones/the Clash/Bowie/Buzzcocks and T-Rex. Music was the future there were no niceties for us. A cup of tea and potato for two was it! Punk put different people in the spotlight, something was happening. Then the fairytale evaporated and they had to find out who they were. You have to be destroyed in the fire to come out anew. Budgie and Lol ricocheted around the world. The prodigal sons of post punk come home. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which Budgie and Lol reveal it all started at the fairgrounds of England. Like a Stephen King novel? The teddy boys, rockers and… girls! Pink Floyd played our bowling alley! Post war England was grim and our true education was punk. Out of the depression we escaped through music. Even the Partridge family! Budgie learns stagecraft in his secret life. Lol stays up all night at Robert's. Desperation and osmosis drove us on. To where? Hear the answer in Part 2 next week! Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which Budgie goes to the Florida keys with the Banshees and Sioux only has a flashlight for her light show! Sometimes the best shows are when nobody is there. Lol was scared in Denver on Halloween by Fred Munster! A misty lake in Finland never gets dark for Lol and the Cure. Budgie feels the heat with Love and Rockets in Arizona . It's Hot, hot, hot with Lol in Texas. Those British boys abroad! From hysteria in Newcastle to perfect calm in Tokyo. Lol, and Budgie have seen it all. Gangplanks and Freud. Beatlemania and Secret security. Bring all your fans along on the Bullet train! CONNECT WITH USCurious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Budgie and Lol hear about Tim's first memory of Little Jimmy Osmond at 6 years old and then Buzzcocks in 1978 at ten years old. He got let in the back door of clubs went on stage in the late 80's doing his thing and nobody has told him to get off yet. The sun came out in Manchester and everyone started dancing! Tim ended up In Los Angeles as part of his childhood fantasy. We discuss destruction-touring and making records. On Head on the Door Lol nearly set the studio alight with model racing cars. Out of chaos Budgie makes Dear Prudence. Tim lived as the Rolling Stones making Exile on Main Street. Tim gets a editor and writes a great memoir and carried on writing. Tim gets Budgie to agree to let him use his tweets to help people affected by Covid. We tell Tim he's saved music. Good man. Later on they reveal that punk produced quite a few characters as it was such a time of social change. That's why we remember them. And if Budgie doesn't know them Lol does! For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and Tim in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Tim Burgess:Facebook: @timburgessmusic, @thecharlatansTwitter: @Tim_Burgess, @LlSTENlNG_PARTYInstagram: @thecharlatans, @ogenesisrecords Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Roped into a cult at birth. Weddings ( and funerals) were an early source of income for Lol. The Latin mass was mysterious to us ! At the advent of the folk mass, our faith lapsed but the guilt remains, however. Confession is not necessarily good for the soul if you can be revealed! Lols is not a fan of organized religion. At 14 it all changed. Budgie was powered away for decades until at 38 he finally got a handle on his own feelings. Budgie surmised it's a very strange theatrical show they run at the church. But something in the past has helped the present. Kicking against the restrictions. Running away to join the circus. Anti-establishment by virtue of what we experienced as children. We are the stiff upper lip of the post-war British combined with the fire and brimstone of the straight jacket of religion made punk inevitable.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Connect With Us: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie:Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Terri Nunn (Berlin) joins Lol and Budgie this week on Curious Creatures. Lol and Budgie discover that the journey is half the battle. The three discuss whether or not musicians have social issues, and if music is the bridge (apparently it’s good for your heart). Lol, Budgie and Terri wonder if the magic of music lasts forever. Do kids listen to and draw their own inspiration from their parents’ music now? Terri talks about having the opportunity to go back and reassure her younger self that it’s all going to be ok. Later on Lol and Budgie get into drum machines and decide they are ok - AND they’re not afraid of them! For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and Terri in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/Socials:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646Berlin:Facebook: @berlinofficialbandTwitter: @realterrinunnInstagram: @berlinofficialband Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1970s why Punk just had to be! Everything was flared! I ain't no square with my corkscrew hair Trex Bryan Ferry and Jelly sandals! #1 and #2 Crop. Two partings, Find yer gang! Lol reveals he might have bought the bondage strides Pete Burns actually had a pair of Bondage strides and Paul Rutherford was very jealous. Homemade buttons (badges) Clash jacket made Lol get some slogan on his clothes. Budgie and Lol loved the Holey MOHAIR JUMPERS. YES YES YES! Cold little Punkies! Lol thinks Creepers rule and Budgie lived in his DMs too. Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol and Budgie are joined by Michael Dempsey, the third founding member of The Cure. Lol and Budgie discover that Michael really dug Lol’s hairdo. They find out they were both misfits of no fixed abode in a progressive In-a-Gadda da-Vida” where “Electric Warriors” congregated against the miasma of Apathy. Michael notes that not being able to play is a singular benefit. They had chips and beer, and watched the Banshees from the wings which is where they learned their stagecraft. Budgie talks about his love for the Cure’s Strange screens on stage during Carnage Visors and Faith (meet the Pink floyd of the new wave) For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and Michael in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Socials: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) is back to chat with Lol and Budgie for the second time. Lol and Budgie discover that James really digs crazy music. They talk about the Road to Damascus leading to the Fountain of Eternal Youth, along with creating and why mistakes matter! Later Lol and Budgie discover drumming on chunks of metal, a love of staircases, and composing on steering wheels waiting for the lights to change.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and James in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/Socials:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646James Murphy:Facebook: @lcdsoundsystem Twitter: @lcdsoundsystem Instagram: @lcdsoundsystem Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) joins Lol and Budgie on this episode of Curious Creatures. Budgie and Lol discover that James knows all about the English Doom. They discuss the Power of newness. Limitations are good now, everyone thinks they’re cool. James says he loves Lol and Budgie (and they love him back). Later Lol and Budgie discover leather pants.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and James in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/Socials:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646James Murphy:Facebook: @lcdsoundsystem Twitter: @lcdsoundsystem Instagram: @lcdsoundsystem Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Curious Creatures is hosted by Lol Tolhurst and Budgie. Lol is the co-founder of The Cure and Budgie was the drummer for Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Slits, Big in Japan, and co-founder of The Creatures. The duo have over 100 years of combined experience to draw upon since their beginnings as punk pioneers. In each episode of Curious Creatures, Lol and Budgie explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. They welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions - “curious questions” - will be answered at the end of each episode. For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and their guests, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices